Al-Qaeda 'blames Blair for bombs'

Troubleshooter · 08-04-2005, 01:29 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4745639.stm

And this is why these fuckers just need to go away. Emphasis mine.

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Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri has warned London will face more attacks because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions.

His comments were made in a videotape which was broadcast on Arab satellite channel al-Jazeera.

The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought you destruction to the heart of London, and he will bring more destruction, God willing."

Trilby · 08-04-2005, 01:53 PM

Useless and feeble minds blame others for their own ills and fucked-upedness. These guys are psychos. You don't win with psycho's, you just contain the damage.

Troubleshooter · 08-04-2005, 02:26 PM

No, you eliminate the possibility of it.

Unfortunately, that's not politically sound.

08-04-2005, 03:51 PM

I don't think anyone here is going to argue that al-Qaeda is a fun loving group of guys who should be encouraged to do what they please. They don't need to go away so much as they need to be eradicated. They harm their own cause by making such announcements because then those in the West who advocare staying out of the internal affairs of Middle East nations are painted as al-Qaeda sympathizers or wuss's who are giving in to terrorist demands.

Happy Monkey · 08-04-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

No, you eliminate the possibility of it.

Unfortunately, that's not politically sound.

Or possible.

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Originally Posted by marichiko

They harm their own cause by making such announcements because then those in the West who advocare staying out of the internal affairs of Middle East nations are painted as al-Qaeda sympathizers or wuss's who are giving in to terrorist demands.

That doesn't hurt their cause. They want the US to keep stirring stuff up over there.

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-04-2005, 11:23 PM

I don't think it's impossible. I think our hunting fanatics down and killing them in their own backyards will make fanaticism unpopular, as we show the nations that fanaticism and anti-Americanism are the province of losers.

When all of Islam's idiots die on our guns, who is left to Islam but the above-average, the moral, the wise? Let us bend our efforts to provide these idiots with the most profitless and embarrassing deaths as it is within our considerable power to arrange, working every angle from PR to superstition. A pigskin burial may never actually be used, but its threat...

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-04-2005, 11:25 PM

Marichiko, that at least is well said.

Troubleshooter · 08-05-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

...anti-Americanism...

I'm only concerned with americanism as much as I'm concerned with my own safety.

I'm more concerned with enlightenment no matter which border it comes from.

Bullitt · 08-05-2005, 08:48 AM

And I'm concerned about when I have kids one day that I'm gonna have to apologize to them for letting the world get so f*cked up

Undertoad · 08-05-2005, 08:50 AM

Galloway blames Blair too (video) (really gets going about a third of the way in)

Troubleshooter · 08-05-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

And I'm concerned about when I have kids one day that I'm gonna have to apologize to them for letting the world get so f*cked up

Well, nationalism can be as much of a religion as any other ideology. I think that is UG's biggest issue.

Good ideas usually end up having something of broader spectrum of appeal As opposed to volume.

Slicing your scalp open every year to show your conviction or being addicted to American Idol goes for the volume crowd.

Hobbs · 08-05-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Let us bend our efforts to provide these idiots with the most profitless and embarrassing deaths as it is within our considerable power to arrange...

Unfortunatly, there is no such thing as a profitless or embarrassing death for these folks. Every death is viewed as martyrdom. Every setback is viewed a victory. It's all how it's spun and it's williness to recieve it as such. IMHO.

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A pigskin burial may never actually be used, but its threat...

I'm not sure weather this is urban legend or not, I can't find the article to confirm. I read a story a few years back about a military leader in South America somewhere back in late 1800's. The area was constently having problems with muslim militants. A leader of the local military catured a handful of militants, covered them with pigs blood, humiliated them, and killed all but one of them, who then was let go to run back to the others and tell them of horrors imposed on him. They supposed never to have problems with the militants again. Has anyone else heard of this story?

If it is true, this thing would never work anymore. This sort of behavior only insights and adds to thier cause. IMHO.

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...working every angle from PR to superstition.

Start spreading stories that the reason why muslim nations are being invaded or destroyed by floods, earthquakes, etc. is because allah is angry for thier willingness to allow the militants to kill and murder. Eventually, this story will filter to the militants who will in turn put out a video/audio tape explaining that the reason why this is happening is because the mulsim brothers are allowing the apostates and zionsists to inhabit the holyland. That they need to fight on and beat down the Americans and Brits. Again, it's all how it's spun and it's williness to recieve it as such. And again, IMHO.

lookout123 · 08-05-2005, 11:26 AM

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as we show the nations that fanaticism and anti-Americanism are the province of losers.

you seem to think that America - as we know it - is forever. no nation lasts forever without some drastic changes... democracies have lasted about 200 years. lessee, 1776...carry the one...

Happy Monkey · 08-05-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I don't think it's impossible. I think our hunting fanatics down and killing them in their own backyards will make fanaticism unpopular, as we show the nations that fanaticism and anti-Americanism are the province of losers.

That depends on how it is done. If it is done in a heavyhanded, bullyish way, it will make fanaticism more popular, as the claims of the terrorists appear to be validated.

Troubleshooter · 08-05-2005, 02:29 PM

Well, there's always the hope to run out of fanatics...

08-04-2005, 01:29 PM	#1
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Al-Qaeda 'blames Blair for bombs' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4745639.stm And this is why these fuckers just need to go away. Emphasis mine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri has warned London will face more attacks because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions. His comments were made in a videotape which was broadcast on Arab satellite channel al-Jazeera. The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought you destruction to the heart of London, and he will bring more destruction, God willing." __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

08-04-2005, 01:53 PM	#2
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Useless and feeble minds blame others for their own ills and fucked-upedness. These guys are psychos. You don't win with psycho's, you just contain the damage. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

08-04-2005, 02:26 PM	#3
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	No, you eliminate the possibility of it. Unfortunately, that's not politically sound. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

08-04-2005, 11:23 PM	#6
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I don't think it's impossible. I think our hunting fanatics down and killing them in their own backyards will make fanaticism unpopular, as we show the nations that fanaticism and anti-Americanism are the province of losers. When all of Islam's idiots die on our guns, who is left to Islam but the above-average, the moral, the wise? Let us bend our efforts to provide these idiots with the most profitless and embarrassing deaths as it is within our considerable power to arrange, working every angle from PR to superstition. A pigskin burial may never actually be used, but its threat... __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-04-2005, 11:25 PM	#7
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Marichiko, that at least is well said. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-04-2005, 03:51 PM	#4
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think anyone here is going to argue that al-Qaeda is a fun loving group of guys who should be encouraged to do what they please. They don't need to go away so much as they need to be eradicated. They harm their own cause by making such announcements because then those in the West who advocare staying out of the internal affairs of Middle East nations are painted as al-Qaeda sympathizers or wuss's who are giving in to terrorist demands.

08-05-2005, 08:48 AM	#9
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	And I'm concerned about when I have kids one day that I'm gonna have to apologize to them for letting the world get so f*cked up __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

08-05-2005, 08:50 AM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Galloway blames Blair too (video) (really gets going about a third of the way in)

08-05-2005, 02:29 PM	#15
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Well, there's always the hope to run out of fanatics... __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

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