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Old 05-19-2003, 12:01 AM   #1
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Why do White House support Taiwan joining the WHO

I heard from China CCTV news report. I don't know if Taiwan would join WHO. We hope to have a good relation with the US and support China to draw TW back. Don't let TW make troubles to two sides.
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Old 05-19-2003, 10:17 AM   #2
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Re: Why do White House support Taiwan joining the WHO

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I heard from China CCTV news report. I don't know if Taiwan would join WHO. We hope to have a good relation with the US and support China to draw TW back. Don't let TW make troubles to two sides.
This Tiawan question is a charade - false pretense - fictional game. It is how the Chinese and Americans get around a fact they will never agree on while pretending to be in agreement. But the pragmatic reality is that mainland China and Tiawan are two separate countries and will remain so until and unless both countries agree to a reunion.

When mainland missiles threatened Tiawan, the US Seventh Fleet steamed through the straits to say bluntly - Tiawan is an independent country. That remains reality reagardless of what silly politicians claim.

Whether Tiawan becomes part of the WHO is a silly question for politicians. If Tiawan, not functioning as part of the WHO, is a threat to the health and safety of world people, then screw, impeach, or assissinate all politicians. When government officials do not work for the people, then they must be disposed of, with aggression if necessary. (A principle of the US and VietNam Declarations of Independence).

Sooner or later this nonsense idea of two countries / one nation will need to be eliminated. But that is a concept only for politician who cannot yet deal with realities. Whether Tiawan is or is not participating in the WHO is irrelevant to silly, pathetic politicans who have a funny habit of creating wars over nothing.

BTW, we saw some silly politicans try to do just that recently. In another crisis - a silly spy plane incident - some silly and anti-American politicans in the White House threatened war with mainland China over that silly plane. Yes, some government officials (in both countries) are so anti-world and anti-humanity as to advocate war over almost anything. Thank goodness for real Americans and real Chinese. Collin Powell finally put a stop to all that rhetoric from right wing extremist war mongers. But again, what we had are silly politicans trying to promote war because they are more interested in their silly politics than in world realities - pragmatism.

Honest people say it does not matter that Tiawan participates in the WHO. The WHO is about the health and well-being of the world. Honest people also say that that silly spy plane incident shows how anti-humanity some extremists in both the US and China can be. Don't worry about Tiawan. If it is in the interest of both China and Tiawan to be one country, then it will happen - when silly politicians stop playing mind games.
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Old 05-19-2003, 12:18 PM   #3
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Well, if Taiwan can have an olympic team, I don't see why they shouldn't be part of the WHO.

(Personally, I think Taiwan should be treated as Hong Kong and Macau, though I don't see the Taiwanese agreeing with that.)
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Old 05-19-2003, 02:36 PM   #4
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Are you stalking tw again?
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Old 05-19-2003, 02:38 PM   #5
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Re: Why do White House support Taiwan joining the WHO

The British gave you Hong Kong back, in the last major international crime of (last) century. Forget about Taiwan.
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Old 05-19-2003, 04:00 PM   #6
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I've got news for you tw. If China ever wanted to take Taiwan back by force, America WOULDN'T DARE get involved militarily. There's not a chance in the world.
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Old 05-19-2003, 04:16 PM   #7
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Billy, Taiwan is a separate country. You don't need it. If Taiwan disappeared from the face of the earth, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to China. The only reason Mao wanted Taiwan is because they were getting wealthy and living well when China was starving under communism. It made him look bad. Now China has moved toward socialism and developed a trade policy that will increase wealth and the standard of living for its' people. If China keeps that direction and opens up opportunities for more individual freedom then there's a possibility that it would become attractive to Taiwan to rejoin China. If you want them back then make it worth their while.
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Old 05-19-2003, 04:39 PM   #8
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Taiwan has been part of China for 7,000 years. I don't know what makes you think it's a different country. It would be like saying the Island of Manhattan is no longer part of America, but worse. What do you think Ameirca would do if Manhattan said they didn't want to be part of America and China said they'd send their military here to defend it?

Taiwan has always been and will always be part of China and America won't do anything about it if China decides to spank thier child for disobeying.
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Old 05-19-2003, 05:24 PM   #9
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And you call Bush a warmonger. Tsk, tsk
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Old 05-19-2003, 07:52 PM   #10
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He is a war monger and I am not. I am not in favor of STARTING any wars; especially unprovoked and unconstitutional wars of imperialistic terrorist aggression like Bush did.

As long as Taiwan doesn't try to break away from China and declare independence I don't anticipate a war. But if a war did happen, I can guarantee America would not take part in it. I think Taiwan should be able to declare their independence as America did from our tyrranical imperialist oppressors, however this is none of America's business and China like Iraq doesn't answer to America but unlike Iraq, China is strong enough so even a war monger like Bush wouldn't be stupid enough to start shit with them. Although I may be underestimating Bush's stupidity.
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:38 PM   #11
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Taiwan hasn't been part of China for 50 years.:p
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:46 PM   #12
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Sure they have. They've never stopped being part of China.
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:58 PM   #13
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If they're a part of China, then what the hell is everyone so upset about?
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Old 05-19-2003, 09:04 PM   #14
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People are upset because Taiwan doesn't want to be part of China anymore but they don't have the strength to break away. America cares because the vast majority of our computer chips and other electronics are made there and we like the idea of having an ally so close to China.

Unfortunately for Taiwan China won't allow them to break away and America can't do anything about it. If America were to give them missles or other weapons, China would immediately attack and America doesn't want any part of that.
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Old 05-19-2003, 09:06 PM   #15
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But if they already have their own separate government, then what's the definition of "breaking away"?
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