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xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2010, 11:57 PM

FUCK CANCER.
Cancer is so pervasive, if you hang with any group of people larger than a Corvette car pool, cancer will come up in your conversations frequently. One of them, or someone they know, will be touched by it.

Christopher Hitchens writes for Vanity Fair... and has cancer.
He wrote about it in an article called Tumorville, and makes one very, very important point.

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Peach pits, open chakras, macrobiotic diets: cancer patients get more unsolicited advice than they could possibly follow. Cutting-edge medicine seems to offer limitless options, too—until the author runs smack into the lethal idiocy of the godly opponents of stem-cell research.

The war on Cancer, and the war on drugs, both from the Nixon era and both unsuccessful, have been tied up in politics and infighting from the beginning. Everybody says they want to defeat cancer, but the truth is the people battling stem-cell research on religious grounds, to put it delicately, are two faced lying motherfuckers.

Worst than that they are killers, as surely as if they had pulled a trigger themselves. They are killing our friends, our families, and some of us, with their ridiculous bullshit. WWJD? He'd kick their collective asses.
We've got to end this madness, and fully investigate what stem-cell therapy can do. Anything less is not a war on cancer, it's a half-hearted, and half-assed, skirmish with cancer.

Tulip · 10-09-2010, 12:20 AM

I gather you're pro stem cell research, huh.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-09-2010, 12:33 AM

Absolutely, it's been shown to be the most promising therapy we know of, and to not develop it is ridiculous. To throw away, throw in the garbage, unused eggs that could be used to save lives, is crazy.

Aliantha · 10-09-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

FUCK CANCER.
Cancer is so pervasive, if you hang with any group of people larger than a Corvette car pool, cancer will come up in your conversations frequently. One of them, or someone they know, will be touched by it.

Christopher Hitchens writes for Vanity Fair... and has cancer.
He wrote about it in an article called Tumorville, and makes one very, very important point.

The war on Cancer, and the war on drugs, both from the Nixon era and both unsuccessful, have been tied up in politics and infighting from the beginning. Everybody says they want to defeat cancer, but the truth is the people battling stem-cell research on religious grounds, to put it delicately, are two faced lying motherfuckers.

Worst than that they are killers, as surely as if they had pulled a trigger themselves. They are killing our friends, our families, and some of us, with their ridiculous bullshit. WWJD? He'd kick their collective asses.
We've got to end this madness, and fully investigate what stem-cell therapy can do. Anything less is not a war on cancer, it's a half-hearted, and half-assed, skirmish with cancer.

Hear hear!!

If it weren't for stem cell research, I would have lost not only my Mum, but her only sibling also. My aunt was lucky enough to be able and willing to try a new therapy to fight the type of cancer she had with stem cells. She's alive today only because of that open minded attitude to her life (and surely anyone who's told they're going to die would be), and he fighting spirit.

All this bullshit about embryo's etc just gives me the simple shits. Of course, I'm also pro choice as far as pregnancy termination goes, so at least I'm not a hypocrite.

DanaC · 10-09-2010, 07:20 AM

Great post bruce.

I am baffled beyond belief at the sheer persistence of superstition in the face of such awesome potential.

Shawnee123 · 10-09-2010, 09:02 AM

I just want to say "hell yeah!"

And fuck cancer.

Gravdigr · 10-10-2010, 02:08 AM

Political shitstorm in 3...2...1...

classicman · 10-10-2010, 08:09 AM

Anyone not interested in exploring the potential for stem cell research should be taken ont back and treated like an armadillo at Merc's house.

**Even though it, unfortunately, has ZERO application for my personal situation.**

monster · 10-10-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Anyone not interested in exploring the potential for stem cell research should be taken ont back and treated like an armadillo at Merc's house.

Agreed -for what that's worth. Science is way beyond "exploring the potential"-we know it has potential, we know what that potential is. What we want is to go ahead with the research. Using the cells of unwanted embyos etc.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-10-2010, 08:10 PM

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Using the cells of unwanted embyos etc

Garbage, eggs that are being thrown in the garbage. Criminal.

monster · 10-10-2010, 08:15 PM

right. dumpster diving.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-10-2010, 08:17 PM

Recycling... that's like green, and politically correct and shit.

monster · 10-10-2010, 08:19 PM

and yet, maybe that cell woulda voted republican if given a chance....

spudcon · 10-10-2010, 09:49 PM

I'm confused. I thought stem cell research has been booming, and the only thing with a restriction on it is federally funded embrionic research. As far as I understand, all stem cell research is open, just don't expect people who oppose abortions to fund abortions to harvest embrionic stem cells. Placentas, umbilical cords, never heard of trashing eggs before. Fertile women flush an egg a month down the toilet every month. Where is the outrage?

spudcon · 10-10-2010, 09:51 PM

BTW, there's your shitstorm Gravdigr.

10-09-2010, 12:33 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Absolutely, it's been shown to be the most promising therapy we know of, and to not develop it is ridiculous. To throw away, throw in the garbage, unused eggs that could be used to save lives, is crazy. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-09-2010, 09:02 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I just want to say "hell yeah!" And fuck cancer. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-10-2010, 02:08 AM	#7
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Political shitstorm in 3...2...1... __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-10-2010, 08:09 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Anyone not interested in exploring the potential for stem cell research should be taken ont back and treated like an armadillo at Merc's house. Even though it, unfortunately, has ZERO application for my personal situation. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-10-2010, 08:15 PM	#11
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	right. dumpster diving. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-09-2010, 12:20 AM	#2
Tulip Professor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,293	I gather you're pro stem cell research, huh.

10-10-2010, 08:17 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Recycling... that's like green, and politically correct and shit. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-10-2010, 08:19 PM	#13
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	and yet, maybe that cell woulda voted republican if given a chance.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-10-2010, 09:49 PM	#14
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	I'm confused. I thought stem cell research has been booming, and the only thing with a restriction on it is federally funded embrionic research. As far as I understand, all stem cell research is open, just don't expect people who oppose abortions to fund abortions to harvest embrionic stem cells. Placentas, umbilical cords, never heard of trashing eggs before. Fertile women flush an egg a month down the toilet every month. Where is the outrage? __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

10-10-2010, 09:51 PM	#15
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	BTW, there's your shitstorm Gravdigr. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

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