Alternatives to photo editing software POLL

footfootfoot · 12-07-2011, 10:52 AM

Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you can't find the disc with the photo editing software you like, and you are totally hating this paint.net and gimp.

And let's say, one day you opened your mail and there was a disc with photoshop cs5 on it and lightroom 3.3.

And when you went to install the software you had to copy and paste two small .dll files into the appropriate folder to activate the program.

How would that sit on your moral high ground?

Undertoad · 12-07-2011, 11:07 AM

That's all well and good, but unless you set up your hosts file you may still have trouble.

i guess this shows where i stand on the issue

footfootfoot · 12-07-2011, 11:16 AM

how does one go about setting up their host file?

Undertoad · 12-07-2011, 11:20 AM

I'd tell you, but then I'd have to ban myself for using the Cellar to break the law.

...but you could download the torrent and let IT tell you.

footfootfoot · 12-07-2011, 11:25 AM

I get about 85%™ through those tutorial before I become lost in terminology. I was reading one about setting up your port or connection so that your ISP can't shape your traffic (which mine does after I watch three you tube videos) and I got about 85%™ done when I hit a wall of Huh?

I will search for the torrent of wisdom you describe.

Undertoad · 12-07-2011, 11:26 AM

Making your search easy, it's linked to in post #2.

If you don't have a bittorrent client it will be considerably more difficult, install that first

footfootfoot · 12-07-2011, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Making your search easy, it's linked to in post #2.

If you don't have a bittorrent client it will be considerably more difficult, install that first

Oh that. Well, I've already got one, you see?
I was thinking of sending a disc of that file to monster

Pete Zicato · 12-07-2011, 12:57 PM

Everybody may be doing it, but that doesn't make it right.

Most of my life I've made my living by working for companies that sell software to consumers. So my salary gets paid by the people who buy the software. It's easy to think you're sticking it to the man, but you're sticking it to all the people who work for that company as well.

I don't work for Adobe, but I have friends who do. Can I make this issue any more personal? Can I make it any more clear?

Pete Zicato · 12-07-2011, 01:03 PM

Photoshop Elements is $55 at amazon.

If you can't afford that, check out some of these free alternatives:

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pix...eephotoedw.htm

glatt · 12-07-2011, 01:12 PM

gimp is really good and is only difficult to use if you aren't used to it. Once you spend a little time with it, it is very easy to use. It's free, open source software and is better than the last (admittedly several versions old) copy of Photoshop that I legally owned.

You can do cool stuff with it in mere minutes, like this:

GunMaster357 · 12-07-2011, 01:22 PM

Moral ? What's that ?

Undertoad · 12-07-2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

I don't work for Adobe, but I have friends who do

Apparently their software has been utterly pirated and they still work there, so perhaps the issue is more complicated than you make it out to be?

Pete Zicato · 12-07-2011, 01:48 PM

They can, so far, manage to pay the bills and the employees on what they make from the people who pay for their copies. Those who don't pay are riding the coat-tails of those who do.

Undertoad · 12-07-2011, 02:21 PM

Zak'ly: it's not the man you're sticking it to, and not the fine people at Adobe, but the people who can afford to pay $1900 per seat for design premium or $2600 for the suite.

Pete Zicato · 12-07-2011, 02:44 PM

So it's ok to harm Adobe and employees because it's still standing? [Hey, they still made some money] What kind of logic is that? [I only cut them a leetle.]

And you admit to ripping off the folks who pay for their copies. And that's ok because?

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If, by moral high ground, you mean this valley, then yes.	1	16.67%
Steady as a rock	3	50.00%
Steady as a wobbly, round rock	0	0%
It rolls right down off my moral high ground and rockets through neighborhoods	2	33.33%
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12-07-2011, 10:52 AM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Alternatives to photo editing software POLL Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you can't find the disc with the photo editing software you like, and you are totally hating this paint.net and gimp. And let's say, one day you opened your mail and there was a disc with photoshop cs5 on it and lightroom 3.3. And when you went to install the software you had to copy and paste two small .dll files into the appropriate folder to activate the program. How would that sit on your moral high ground? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-07-2011, 11:16 AM	#3
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	how does one go about setting up their host file? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-07-2011, 11:25 AM	#5
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I get about 85%™ through those tutorial before I become lost in terminology. I was reading one about setting up your port or connection so that your ISP can't shape your traffic (which mine does after I watch three you tube videos) and I got about 85%™ done when I hit a wall of Huh? I will search for the torrent of wisdom you describe. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-07-2011, 12:57 PM	#8
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Everybody may be doing it, but that doesn't make it right. Most of my life I've made my living by working for companies that sell software to consumers. So my salary gets paid by the people who buy the software. It's easy to think you're sticking it to the man, but you're sticking it to all the people who work for that company as well. I don't work for Adobe, but I have friends who do. Can I make this issue any more personal? Can I make it any more clear? __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

12-07-2011, 11:07 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	That's all well and good, but unless you set up your hosts file you may still have trouble. i guess this shows where i stand on the issue

12-07-2011, 11:20 AM	#4
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I'd tell you, but then I'd have to ban myself for using the Cellar to break the law. ...but you could download the torrent and let IT tell you.

12-07-2011, 11:26 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Making your search easy, it's linked to in post #2. If you don't have a bittorrent client it will be considerably more difficult, install that first

12-07-2011, 01:03 PM	#9
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Photoshop Elements is $55 at amazon. If you can't afford that, check out some of these free alternatives: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pix...eephotoedw.htm __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

12-07-2011, 01:12 PM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	gimp is really good and is only difficult to use if you aren't used to it. Once you spend a little time with it, it is very easy to use. It's free, open source software and is better than the last (admittedly several versions old) copy of Photoshop that I legally owned. You can do cool stuff with it in mere minutes, like this: Attached Images

12-07-2011, 01:22 PM	#11
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	Moral ? What's that ? __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

12-07-2011, 01:48 PM	#13
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	They can, so far, manage to pay the bills and the employees on what they make from the people who pay for their copies. Those who don't pay are riding the coat-tails of those who do. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

12-07-2011, 02:21 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Zak'ly: it's not the man you're sticking it to, and not the fine people at Adobe, but the people who can afford to pay $1900 per seat for design premium or $2600 for the suite.

12-07-2011, 02:44 PM	#15
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	So it's ok to harm Adobe and employees because it's still standing? [Hey, they still made some money] What kind of logic is that? [I only cut them a leetle.] And you admit to ripping off the folks who pay for their copies. And that's ok because? __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

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