Tree Jumpers in Da Hood

footfootfoot · 03-07-2014, 11:41 AM

Thought about just putting this in "What's bumming my stone" or one of them there threads, but maybe it's worth a parenting discussion.

We just got a letter that a Registered Sex Offender moved into the neighborhood, about 10 blocks away. Around here those ten blocks are maybe 3/4 of a mile, and not on a route my kids would walk.

And it's a small town where nearly everyone knows them. The walk to school is in the opposite direction and the route they take goes through a fairly populated neighborhood. Up until recently the kids walked with their mom to school, but the inch is now wanting to walk alone, so he leaves 5 or 10 minutes before mom and the mm.

It's probably not a big deal, but it's the kind of shit I'd rather not have to worry about. You can go online and read up on their rap sheets, find out their favorite type of victim, whether it was someone they knew or just a random. In some ways it is comforting to know if their victims were adults and not children, unfortunately in this case, the guy likes kids.

The good news is this town is where cops train and the police presence is insane and highly active. It just sucks to have to think of parts of town or people as being dangerous.

We and the school have done all the usual talk about safety, etc. So it's more of a "Oh crap. Not another thing." kind of feeling.

I've restrained myself from opening the "What they should do..." can of worms, but my mind does go there...

lumberjim · 03-07-2014, 11:50 AM

induct him into the ranks of the Castrati?

footfootfoot · 03-07-2014, 12:11 PM

I was thinking fertilizer

glatt · 03-07-2014, 01:17 PM

Have you had a talk with the kids about how to respond to someone trying to abduct them? Yell, scream, fight back, run away, etc.

Gravdigr · 03-07-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

"What they should do..."

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

induct him into the ranks of the Castrati?

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

I was thinking fertilizer

...feet first through a wood chipper. One of those with the hydraulics-controlled feed...so he don't get pulled through too quickly.

Gravdigr · 03-07-2014, 01:51 PM

Also, I'm having trouble grasping the title of this thread.

"Tree Jumpers"

An explanation would be greatly appreciated.

DanaC · 03-07-2014, 02:32 PM

You know where this one is. It's the ones you aren't aware of that are a worry.

There will be people in your community who like kids.

Sundae · 03-07-2014, 02:33 PM

Not having childer myself, I can only respond in a practical way.
Note: this is not a criticism of more emotional responses, given that I'm not tw...

But yes, the best possible (legal) protection is to follow Glatt's advice.
We were scared of bushes by my Mum, when we used to run wild in the fields and farmlands that are now all houses hereabouts. Bad men would grab you and drag you into the bushes.
But on a practical level we were never to go out alone (except with the dog) and never, ever, ever take a lift from any man, not even a neighbour or a man we knew. Somehow I took this to mean Mr M, who lived two doors down. Years later I questioned Mum who was horrified, she only meant to warn us about men we might have met fleetingly, like random work colleagues of Dad, who he barely knew.

But yes, scream, shut, holler, bite, scratch and never believe anyone who says they won't hurt you if you're quiet. And if you're the one who's free, run screaming your head off to the nearest house but don't go inside or stop making a noise until there are plenty of people there.

Oddly, none of this advice ever scared or scarred me, but then I was brought up on a diet of quite horrific Public Safety films which featured children dying in appalling ways. And I had no concept of sex or molestation, so the Bad Men would probably have been drowning me in slurry or trying to make me cross a railway track.

Sadly I think grooming is they new Man in the Bushes. It was what snagged my niece into a pseudo-relationship with a man twice her age. NOT the father of her twins btw.
They lived next door to each other and it turns out he'd been paying her attention for years before anything physical happened. Which is so creepy, given that she was 15 when it all came out.

Must be a real worry for you though Foot.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-07-2014, 03:20 PM

"Registered Sex Offender", clear as mud but it covers the ground. Unfortunately it leaves much to the imagination.

Did this guy snatch children off the street? Lure kids into his house? Molest neighborhood kids? Molest minors he was living with or minor relatives he was babysitting? Maybe it had nothing to do with children.

Maybe he didn't have contact with minors but was trading in kiddie porn. Or just got caught with kiddie porn on his computer. Or got caught screwing his underage girlfriend. Maybe masturbating in a public park.

Of course when you throw plea bargains into the mix, it gets really murky.

It would be nice to know more about the guy, how he got the millstone of "Registered sex Offender".

glatt · 03-07-2014, 03:46 PM

I knew a guy (a real jackass, incidentally) who was a registered sex offender. And he claimed he was drunk and peeing in the alleyway and got the label that way. Indecent exposure got him the label.

I don't know if it's true, but I can see that happening. When I looked him up, there was no detail given.

monster · 03-07-2014, 07:03 PM

If you're a 17yo and have sex with your 16yo girl/boyfriend, you can get a sex offender label in some places....

orthodoc · 03-08-2014, 12:13 AM

But foot said - 'the guy likes kids'. He's not a teen with a 16 year old girlfriend or a public urinator (pee-er? peer?).

Educating the kids and making sure they travel in groups is key. I'd like to think that the local schools would be proactive, too.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2014, 02:49 AM

That still leaves a broad spectrum of possibilities.

DanaC · 03-08-2014, 04:08 AM

Minor point: careful not to over-emphasise the caution needed around men. There are cases of children being lured in by women.

monster · 03-08-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc

But foot said - 'the guy likes kids'. He's not a teen with a 16 year old girlfriend or a public urinator (pee-er? peer?).

Educating the kids and making sure they travel in groups is key. I'd like to think that the local schools would be proactive, too.

True, however, my comment related more to the one directly above it. There is no way of knowing exactly how much of a risk this person is unless you were directly involved in the case they were convicted for imo.

At least now people are forewarned

03-07-2014, 11:41 AM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Tree Jumpers in Da Hood Thought about just putting this in "What's bumming my stone" or one of them there threads, but maybe it's worth a parenting discussion. We just got a letter that a Registered Sex Offender moved into the neighborhood, about 10 blocks away. Around here those ten blocks are maybe 3/4 of a mile, and not on a route my kids would walk. And it's a small town where nearly everyone knows them. The walk to school is in the opposite direction and the route they take goes through a fairly populated neighborhood. Up until recently the kids walked with their mom to school, but the inch is now wanting to walk alone, so he leaves 5 or 10 minutes before mom and the mm. It's probably not a big deal, but it's the kind of shit I'd rather not have to worry about. You can go online and read up on their rap sheets, find out their favorite type of victim, whether it was someone they knew or just a random. In some ways it is comforting to know if their victims were adults and not children, unfortunately in this case, the guy likes kids. The good news is this town is where cops train and the police presence is insane and highly active. It just sucks to have to think of parts of town or people as being dangerous. We and the school have done all the usual talk about safety, etc. So it's more of a "Oh crap. Not another thing." kind of feeling. I've restrained myself from opening the "What they should do..." can of worms, but my mind does go there... __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-07-2014, 11:50 AM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	induct him into the ranks of the Castrati? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-07-2014, 12:11 PM	#3
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I was thinking fertilizer __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-07-2014, 01:51 PM	#6
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Also, I'm having trouble grasping the title of this thread. "Tree Jumpers" An explanation would be greatly appreciated. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-07-2014, 02:33 PM	#8
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Not having childer myself, I can only respond in a practical way. Note: this is not a criticism of more emotional responses, given that I'm not tw... But yes, the best possible (legal) protection is to follow Glatt's advice. We were scared of bushes by my Mum, when we used to run wild in the fields and farmlands that are now all houses hereabouts. Bad men would grab you and drag you into the bushes. But on a practical level we were never to go out alone (except with the dog) and never, ever, ever take a lift from any man, not even a neighbour or a man we knew. Somehow I took this to mean Mr M, who lived two doors down. Years later I questioned Mum who was horrified, she only meant to warn us about men we might have met fleetingly, like random work colleagues of Dad, who he barely knew. But yes, scream, shut, holler, bite, scratch and never believe anyone who says they won't hurt you if you're quiet. And if you're the one who's free, run screaming your head off to the nearest house but don't go inside or stop making a noise until there are plenty of people there. Oddly, none of this advice ever scared or scarred me, but then I was brought up on a diet of quite horrific Public Safety films which featured children dying in appalling ways. And I had no concept of sex or molestation, so the Bad Men would probably have been drowning me in slurry or trying to make me cross a railway track. Sadly I think grooming is they new Man in the Bushes. It was what snagged my niece into a pseudo-relationship with a man twice her age. NOT the father of her twins btw. They lived next door to each other and it turns out he'd been paying her attention for years before anything physical happened. Which is so creepy, given that she was 15 when it all came out. Must be a real worry for you though Foot. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

03-07-2014, 01:17 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Have you had a talk with the kids about how to respond to someone trying to abduct them? Yell, scream, fight back, run away, etc.

03-07-2014, 03:20 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	"Registered Sex Offender", clear as mud but it covers the ground. Unfortunately it leaves much to the imagination. Did this guy snatch children off the street? Lure kids into his house? Molest neighborhood kids? Molest minors he was living with or minor relatives he was babysitting? Maybe it had nothing to do with children. Maybe he didn't have contact with minors but was trading in kiddie porn. Or just got caught with kiddie porn on his computer. Or got caught screwing his underage girlfriend. Maybe masturbating in a public park. Of course when you throw plea bargains into the mix, it gets really murky. It would be nice to know more about the guy, how he got the millstone of "Registered sex Offender". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-07-2014, 03:46 PM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I knew a guy (a real jackass, incidentally) who was a registered sex offender. And he claimed he was drunk and peeing in the alleyway and got the label that way. Indecent exposure got him the label. I don't know if it's true, but I can see that happening. When I looked him up, there was no detail given.

03-07-2014, 07:03 PM	#11
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	If you're a 17yo and have sex with your 16yo girl/boyfriend, you can get a sex offender label in some places.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-08-2014, 12:13 AM	#12
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	But foot said - 'the guy likes kids'. He's not a teen with a 16 year old girlfriend or a public urinator (pee-er? peer?). Educating the kids and making sure they travel in groups is key. I'd like to think that the local schools would be proactive, too. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-08-2014, 02:49 AM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That still leaves a broad spectrum of possibilities. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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