Donald Trump can suck our collective dicks

[DanaC]

Trump's been busy pissing off everybody who isn't a racist fucktard. In his latest outburst he has managed to insult all muslims everywhere, as well as the inhabitants and authorities of Paris and London.

In a bid to justify his controversial comments that Muslims should be barred from entering the US, Trump had said parts of London and Paris were so “radicalised” – seemingly a reference to Islamist extremism being rife – that police officers were scared.
“Paris is no longer the safe city it was. They have sections in Paris that are radicalised, where the police refuse to go there. They’re petrified. The police refuse to go in there,” he told MSNBC, refusing to name specific neighbourhoods in the city.

He added: “We have places in London and other places that are so radicalised that the police are afraid for their own lives. We have to be very smart and very vigilant.”

Naturally this went down like a lead balloon over here, where, not only was the assertion dismissed as patently false and dangerous, but also taken as a deep insult to the courage and professionalism of the police officers of Paris and London.

In a withering statement, the Met, responsible for policing the British capital, said: “We would not normally dignify such comments with a response, however, on this occasion we think it’s important to state to Londoners that Mr Trump could not be more wrong.”

The statement continued: “Any candidate for the presidential election in the United States of America is welcome to receive a briefing from the Met police on the reality of policing London.”

A Downing Street source, meanwhile, said: “For the second time today, we have to completely disagree with Mr Trump. His comments are totally inaccurate.”
-snip-

Downing Street had taken the unusual step of criticising a potential candidate for the US presidency after Trump issued a campaign statement calling for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on”.

The statement, made after the San Bernardino shooting, prompted the prime minister’s spokeswoman to describe Trump’s comments as “divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong”.

The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson had this to say:

Johnson also ridiculed Trump’s comments, saying: “The only reason I wouldn’t go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.

(as much as I disagree with his politics, I do like Boris ;p)

“As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous.”

Similar sentiments have been expressed in Paris.

It's particularly galling that he'd make such comments about the police in London, just a few days after police officers subdued a knife wielding attacker who claimed loyalty to Isil before slashing two people at a tube station. The police did this without the use of firearms. I have some issues with our police but one thing you cannot level at them is a charge of cowardice - they take on the worst and most violent offenders day in day out, often with no more than batons to defend themselves.

There was a petition set up to ban Trump from entering the UK on grounds of hate-speech - it gathered a quarter of a million signatures in a night. The government has (rightly, I think) decided not to impose such a ban - I bet some of them considered it though :P

Read the rest here, it's quite a long report: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-muslims-claim



And then there's this gem:

Donald Trump attended a Sinn Féin fundraising dinner in New York just months before the party’s allies in the Provisional IRA ended its ceasefire with a massive terror attack in London’s Canary Wharf district.

As controversy rages over the Republican presidential candidate’s demand that Muslims be barred from the United States to prevent Islamist terror attacks, footage has emerged of the tycoon shaking hands with Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams.

Guests, including Trump – currently the frontrunner in the race to become Republican presidential nominee – were charged a $200 entry fee to hear Adams speak about the Irish peace process.




But less than four months later the PIRA ended its ceasefire with a huge bomb in London’s Docklands on 9 February 1996. Two men working in a nearby newsagents were killed in the massive explosion, which caused £1000m in damage to the Canary Wharf/South Quay district.


On his way to the New York fundraiser a few months earlier, Trump would
have seen a group of demonstrators protesting ongoing IRA violence, including victims of the 1993 Shankill bomb massacre in which 10 people died.

There were also protests from the relatives of Catholics who had been shot, beaten and exiled by the IRA even after the organisation declared its first ceasefire on 31 August 1994.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...fein-terrorism


Now - I am all for reconciliation and acceptance when it comes to Sinn Fein - but the hypocrisy of this man is just unbelievable.

[glatt]

Scott Adams, who writes the Dilbert comic, doesn't approve of Trump, but picks apart his manipulative power with admiration. He is convinced that Trump's most recent radical positions are a chess move that are cementing his bid to win the White House.

[DanaC]

That's really interesting. Also interesting, was the tack taken by last night's Daily Show. They skewered Trump, as expected for the ridiculous muslim ban plan (fuck, that's catchy) but then they did something different - they changed the conversation and made it about something that speaks loudly to his character but isn't playing into the narrative he's been establishing, or the commonly held fears and prejudices of his supporters. Rather than just lambasting him for something most of us find deplorable, because there are a bunch of people thinking what he is saying - they went for something different. They pointed out the many interviews in which Trump has implied he'd like to have sex with his daughter. In a segment entitked 'Don;t forget, Trump wants to bang his daughter'.

I'd never seen any of the interviews - it was painful to watch. Especially the ones where she is sitting next to him. When he talks about how gorgeous she is and how stunning her body is and how if she wasn;t his daughter he'd probably dating her - or when asked a question about their favourite interests that they share with each other and she said golf and he said sex.

He all but spells it out in some of the interviews. It's a shame she gets dragged through it, but maybe this has the potential to damage his sheen a little with people who find that dad figure alluring.

[xoxoxoBruce]

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[BigV]

He ain't gonna get a chance to suck my dick, no way. Have been paying attention to what kind of shit comes OUT of that hole?

No Fucking Way.

[DanaC]

I do find him repellant. I don't just mean his views, though they are a factor - there's just something about him that sets my lizard brain on edge. You know when you meet someone and a warning bell goes off somewhere in your brain? You may not be able to nail down what it is exactly, but something has set off a warning. I get that kind of feeling when I see him talking.

Not that I am equating the two men, but just because it's one of the few examples of that in my life where I had later confirmation of my instincts: I had a student once when I was a literacy tutor. He was maybe in his early 50s - difficult to put an age on him, he was bizarrely nondescript. One of those people who can sit in a room and almost disappear from view. Very quiet, avoided eye contact mostly and didn't engage much with the rest of the class. I treated him with courtesy and the same friendly air I adopted with every student, but he really, truly made my skin crawl. A few weeks into teaching the class the lead tutor divulged to me that he had a criminal conviction for some kind of child molestation. Given we were helping him find employment along with the literacy and numeracy lessons, that kind of thing was going to be a factor in his jobsearch and advice needed to take account of particular challenges a student might face. Officially I knew he had a criminal record, and that's all.

Sorry - that was a massive tangent.

[xoxoxoBruce]

...there's just something about him that sets my lizard brain on edge.

The lizard brain can pick cold blooded creatures that slither and creep, out of camouflaging foliage, or a crowd.

[sexobon]

If he could get his daughter Ivanka to do it for votes, he'd win by a landslide.

[lumberjim]

He's red faced and ugly, Dana. That's not your lizard brain, that's just your mating instinct

[Clodfobble]

I really want someone to photoshop Trump in an argyle sweater, lifting a pint at the pub.

[glatt]

And the Washington Post had a cover page story this morning on Trump's strategy and manipulative style.

Seems the media is going from trying to tear the guy down by pointing out what a clown he is to trying to figure out just how the hell he is winning despite all the strikes against him.

NPR this morning also had a short segment interviewing Trump supporters and their responses were almost verbatim what Scott Adams was saying in his blog post I linked above. They are afraid and they want Dad to do something to make it better. Because something, even if it winds up being disastrous, is better than doing nothing. (In their point of view.)

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I really want someone to photoshop Trump in an argyle sweater, lifting a pint at the pub.

CHEERS, FOBBLE!

[Clodfobble]

"Oi, mate! I swear on me mum I'll get riddovee immigrants, yeah?"

[infinite monkey]

That picture does not do his magnificent hair justice. It's magnificent, I tell you.

[lumberjim]

yeh, well... quick and dirty erase the background job kind of smoothed him out a bit.