John Kerry flips the bird

lookout123 · 06-02-2004, 05:50 PM

i don't know the whole story, but someone here must. I heard reports that Kerry was at the Viet Nam war memorial for memorial day and was heckled by a vet. supposedly the guy lambasted him for his comments in the '70's. the report i heard said Kerry got flustered and flipped the guy the bird, and it all happened in front of a group of elementary students.

that is the story as i heard it - but that is from talk radio... since that is not the best source to get facts from i was hoping someone here knew more?

elSicomoro · 06-02-2004, 08:05 PM

The only place I've seen it thus far is NewsMax.

lookout123 · 06-02-2004, 09:21 PM

you would think that if it is a true story it would have been reported everywhere. then again i thought the same of h. clinton's stupid remark about ghandi a few months back.

Beestie · 06-02-2004, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by lookout123

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you would think that if it is a true story it would have been reported everywhere.

That would be if W did it. The media look out for their own.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-02-2004, 09:41 PM

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The media look out for their own.

What? Kerry is their(media) own? How so?

Beestie · 06-02-2004, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
What? Kerry is their(media) own? How so?

Taken literally, I am saying that Kerry and the media are both liberal so they are a little softer on him then they would be to a conservative. Had W flipped off someone who questioned his National Guard service (rightly or wrongly) then I think it would be on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story of every newscast.

lookout123's point about Hillary's off-color joke about Ghandi running a 7-11 is well taken. The comment was very under-reported - Hillary was let completely off the hook. Imagine how the media would have treated Dick Cheney had he said it.

Look what happened to Trent Lott. I realize that he's a complete idiot but he makes a remark about Strom Thurman and gets run out of Washington while certain liberals make racist and or anti-Semitic comments seemingly without being taken to task by the media.

I could be misinterpreting all this but it really does seem to me that the media has two sets of rules.

elSicomoro · 06-02-2004, 10:15 PM

Why was the media so excessive in their coverage on the Lewinsky scandal if they're so liberal?

I don't think there's a liberal bias in media...it's all about what will sell.

06-02-2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
Why was the media so excessive in their coverage on the Lewinsky scandal if they're so liberal?

I don't think there's a liberal bias in media...it's all about what will sell.

No kidding! The "liberal" media tore Bill Clinton a new asshole. And they weren't exactly kind to Jimmy Carter either ("sinning in my mind", reporting in detail of the exploits of his alkie brother). Conservatives always like to whine about the "liberal" media when the spotlight is turned on THEIR pecadillos.

lookout123 · 06-02-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
Why was the media so excessive in their coverage on the Lewinsky scandal if they're so liberal?

I don't think there's a liberal bias in media...it's all about what will sell.

IMO, media = bottom-rung hanging, pond scum sucking, cum-bubble blowing filth. (sorry for the mental image)

not that i feel strongly about it or anything.
The most important thing to them is that "if it bleeds, it leads."

the problem is that the media no longer reports the news, they decide what IS news. there is no "fair and balanced" reporting in america. personally, my politics lean a little bit closer to Fox news side but they are no better than Peter Jennings at Al-Jazeera West - it pisses me off that there is no semblance of unbiased reporting out there.

I believe it has grown increasingly worse since watergate. Desert Storm kicked it up a couple of notches when "reporters" were given instant celebrity status because they were suddenly in our faces 24/7.

IMO the media had to cover the Clinton scandal because once one of them does they all have to jump on the bandwagon - but i think at the time they were just as critical of Ken Starr and his lackeys (as they should have been). it has been what, 8 years since that whole debacle and i think it has gotten increasingly worse as each successive talking head realizes if they throw enough of their own view on the news, they may be rewarded with their own show. (i.e. O'Reilly, Matthews, etc.) they each make a mountain out of a mole hill to pander to their audience while ignoring what doesn't comply with their view of the world.

sorry - i guess that turned into a real rant. but they really rank up their with lawyers on my scale.

06-02-2004, 11:52 PM

"Up" with the lawyers? Surely, you've heard that joke about "What's 10,000 lawyers under the ocean?"

Griff · 06-03-2004, 06:24 AM

And now our half-time show, Up With Lawyers!

jaguar · 06-03-2004, 08:08 AM

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Taken literally, I am saying that Kerry and the media are both liberal so they are a little softer on him then they would be to a conservative. Had W flipped off someone who questioned his National Guard service (rightly or wrongly) then I think it would be on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story of every newscast.

Oh please, the US media is about as left wing as adolph hitler, particularly fox which is just plain scary.

Beestie · 06-03-2004, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar Oh please, the US media is about as left wing as adolph hitler, particularly fox which is just plain scary.

If what you are suggesting is that the American media vote along the same lines as a random cross section of the American people than you could not be more wrong. There are numerous legitimate studies that clearly demonstrate that the mainstream media is overwhelmingly liberal as evidenced by either self-procaimation or voting patterns. Fox is but one exception but it is wildly successful because it caters to the other 50% of the American people.

The notion that the majority of media in this country are down the middle centrists is laughable. Even Katie Couric admits that much.

Troubleshooter · 06-03-2004, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Beestie
The notion that the majority of media in this country are down the middle centrists is laughable. Even Katie Couric admits that much.

Ther is also the issue of confusing the reporters with the people who tell them what to report.

jaguar · 06-03-2004, 08:49 AM

I want CNN, I find that fairly center, I find the idea it gets called left wing laughable, same goes for reuters. Simple fact is what most of europe would see as centre, msot of the US would see as left.

06-02-2004, 05:50 PM	#1
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	John Kerry flips the bird i don't know the whole story, but someone here must. I heard reports that Kerry was at the Viet Nam war memorial for memorial day and was heckled by a vet. supposedly the guy lambasted him for his comments in the '70's. the report i heard said Kerry got flustered and flipped the guy the bird, and it all happened in front of a group of elementary students. that is the story as i heard it - but that is from talk radio... since that is not the best source to get facts from i was hoping someone here knew more? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-02-2004, 09:21 PM	#3
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	you would think that if it is a true story it would have been reported everywhere. then again i thought the same of h. clinton's stupid remark about ghandi a few months back. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-03-2004, 06:24 AM	#11
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	And now our half-time show, Up With Lawyers! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-03-2004, 08:49 AM	#15
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	I want CNN, I find that fairly center, I find the idea it gets called left wing laughable, same goes for reuters. Simple fact is what most of europe would see as centre, msot of the US would see as left. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-02-2004, 08:05 PM	#2
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	The only place I've seen it thus far is NewsMax.

06-02-2004, 10:15 PM	#7
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Why was the media so excessive in their coverage on the Lewinsky scandal if they're so liberal? I don't think there's a liberal bias in media...it's all about what will sell.

06-02-2004, 11:52 PM	#10
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	"Up" with the lawyers? Surely, you've heard that joke about "What's 10,000 lawyers under the ocean?"

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