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The urban Jane Goodall
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Florida
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Uncle Sam's Christmas Special: Widows and orphans robbed in tax code switcheroo
Sometimes I wish the sun would take a giant dump on Washington so we could start over.
~~~~~~~~~~ New laws that take effect just after the holiday season allow Uncle Sam to take more money come tax time. The extra money comes from those who donate their cars to charity, but discover that the amount they can deduct has shrunk dramatically. The truly humbug twist is who will get hurt by the grab—charities that generate income from donated cars and the needy people they help. More than 4,000 organizations help everyone from battered women to single moms to disabled veterans, but Americans will soon have less incentive to support such efforts. Whole thing here.
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King Of Wishful Thinking
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
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It's too bad Haliburton didn't have some part of the charity resale business. That would have saved the deduction. :p
GWB wants tax breaks without any serious cuts to government spending. This means the money is going to come from people and organizations without effective lobbyists or friends in the White House. AARP has a lot of clout, so seniors are safe, and noone in Washington will touch home deductions, since most Americans get those. It's areas like this where a small group is affected that will feel the pain. I'm not a tax professional or lawyer, but here is what I think the rules are: The interesting question is if this policy will be claimed by people receiving cars as gifts. Previously, if you won golf clubs on a game show, you had to pay tax on the 'fair market value' of new golf clubs. If you donated new golf clubs, you could take a deduction on the same 'fair market value' of the same golf clubs. Copy of the old rules here IRS rules on Fair Market Value Heres one link on taxes on game show prizes Heres a nice link on various rules effecting churches Goods or services provided in exchange for gifts If you are a good dealmaker, you could game the system by finding a bargain, donating it, and then claiming a higher fair market value than what you paid for it. Be prepared for a fight, but the IRS is supposed to use the same rules for FMV that they use for taxing as they do for deductions. So if you buy a load of bibles for $1 apiece at a liquidation sale, and donate them to a church, you deduction might be much higher if you can prove that the wholesale price of the bibles was $3 apiece. I heard a rumor about a case like this and I was searching the Internet for it when I found these other links. The key is establishing that the low price you paid for the bibles was an unusual market condition and providing proof that the church would have had to pay $3 apiece for the bibles if they had purchased them from a wholesaler. The IRS already establishes that liquidation sales do not reflect fair market values. From publication 561. Quote:
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Professor
Join Date: Jan 2001
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If this puts a stop to those "donate your car" commercials, it's worth it.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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The Kelly Blue Book value is bogus and so they aren't allowed to use it anymore. I don't see the problem. Why should two people who donate the same make/model/year car get the same deduction when one car is in pristeen condition and the other is a piece of junk on blocks?
I donated a car a while back and don't think it was worth half of what I legally wrote it off for.
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