Bond...New Bond

Elspode · 12-29-2006, 09:00 PM

Saw it tonight, it was great. I was really, really dubious about the new Bond, but he is excellent. I am a bit disturbed at the apparent "do over" of the entire franchise by effectively portraying the new Bond as just starting his double-knot career, in modern times, and with a female M (although Dame Judy is, as usual, most excellent). There was no Q, no up-play of gizmos, and very little Bond humor...but still, a wonderful job has been done in the overhaul of the franchise.

Bond 2006 is meaner, a more steely-eyed killer, less suave and debonaire, but still 100% Bond. As a lifelong Bond fan, I'm giving this one a 9 out of 10.

suncrafter · 12-31-2006, 03:28 PM

Now I want to see it, thanks.

Happy Monkey · 12-31-2006, 04:31 PM

It's the first Bond movie in a long while that was not just a good Bond movie; it was a good movie.

CaliforniaMama · 12-31-2006, 07:41 PM

Agreed, all round.

But hubby still asks . . . who was the best Bond ever?

He votes for Sean Connery.

I like one of the older ones before that . . . the one I think of as the original bond. Now what was his name?

CaliforniaMama · 12-31-2006, 07:42 PM

I have to add, the ending of the movie was perfect, just perfect.

DanaC · 12-31-2006, 07:57 PM

I loved it. I saw it the weekend it premiered in England. Really impressed.;

Elspode · 12-31-2006, 08:26 PM

Best Bond ever is still Sean Connery. However, I'm moving Daniel Craig into second...that's how impressed I was with him. My list is thus:

Connery
Craig
Brosnan
Dalton
Moore
Lazenbee (he might have scored better if he'd made more films)

DanaC · 01-01-2007, 12:44 PM

My list is:

Craig
Dalton
Connery
Moore
Lazenby

Brosnan doesn't even make it onto my list:P

I really liked Dalton, he was my favourite Bond, just because he played it so close to the character in the books. Now though, Craig has pipped him to the top slot. He oozes danger and still has a few rough edges, a little more....soldierly than the others.

Undertoad · 01-01-2007, 04:56 PM

I think I enjoy all of them like they're different wines and I don't want to rank them. Moore is not generally liked as much, but his subtle sense of humor and timing was really cool. Brosnan's acting was OK (and he was brilliant in last year's The Matador) but the films were too action-filmy fake for me.

Elspode · 01-02-2007, 12:48 PM

The Dalton/Brosnan years saw a marked improvement in the quality of Bond films, until the disatrous "Die Another Day", when they returned to the Mooresque camp and BS in spades.

I'm not saying I didn't like the Moore era films. I did and do. But I've always preferred rather more serious Bond films, which is why I am so enamoured of the new "Casino Royale". The Moore Bond always reminds me of the old TV "Batman", another character who can be very well done with a very serious bent, but which also worked as high camp and humor. My opinion of Moore as Bond suffers because of the films he was in, and not due to his having been an inadequate Bond.

CaliforniaMama · 01-03-2007, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaMama

I like one of the older ones before that . . . the one I think of as the original bond. Now what was his name?

Moore! That's the one I'm always forgetting!

I do like him best . . . well, 2nd best, now.

I like the cheesyness of the old Bond movies.

JayMcGee · 01-04-2007, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

Saw it tonight, it was great.... I am a bit disturbed at the apparent "do over" of the entire franchise by effectively portraying the new Bond as just starting his double-knot career, in modern times, and with a female M .....

Casino Royale was the first Bond novel.... I guess the film franchise wanted to relate to this.

(Casisno Royale was also the only novel Cubby did <i>not</i) have the original rights to.

Cyclefrance · 01-07-2007, 09:28 AM

Craig was good - I think he set himelf up for the parT after his role in Layer Cake. Casino Rotyale was agood film overall with a satisfying mix of stunts, special effects and pure adrenaline stuff. A friend of mine got fed up with the high level of product placement throughout the film (Omega watch, Sony Vaio, Ford whatever-it-was, and so on) that I looked out for it myself, but quickly found that the film took over my attention more than the products.

Trilby · 01-07-2007, 01:45 PM

Craig is soooooooooooo fookin' hot he burns my eyeballs---in a good way!! forget Pitt, Cruise, Washington, all the bad boys, Craig crushes them all! (except Connery. when Connery was In The Day he made all the girls whimper)

[slaver, slaver, slaver]

You all should see Craig in the film SYLVIA. He played Ted Hughes to Paltrow's Sylvia Plath. He made me

PPS--really non-sequitur--the newsanchor for channel 2 (?) here in Dayton is dating Earl of Spencer---Diana's brother.
Ga-ross.

Shawnee123 · 01-08-2007, 07:53 AM

Really Bri? Which one?

12-29-2006, 09:00 PM	#1
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Bond...New Bond Saw it tonight, it was great. I was really, really dubious about the new Bond, but he is excellent. I am a bit disturbed at the apparent "do over" of the entire franchise by effectively portraying the new Bond as just starting his double-knot career, in modern times, and with a female M (although Dame Judy is, as usual, most excellent). There was no Q, no up-play of gizmos, and very little Bond humor...but still, a wonderful job has been done in the overhaul of the franchise. Bond 2006 is meaner, a more steely-eyed killer, less suave and debonaire, but still 100% Bond. As a lifelong Bond fan, I'm giving this one a 9 out of 10. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

12-31-2006, 04:31 PM	#3
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	It's the first Bond movie in a long while that was not just a good Bond movie; it was a good movie. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-31-2006, 07:41 PM	#4
CaliforniaMama I wonder . . . Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Left Coast, a pretty good place to be. Posts: 1,278	Agreed, all round. But hubby still asks . . . who was the best Bond ever? He votes for Sean Connery. I like one of the older ones before that . . . the one I think of as the original bond. Now what was his name? __________________ Take time for silence. You never know what you might hear.

12-31-2006, 07:42 PM	#5
CaliforniaMama I wonder . . . Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Left Coast, a pretty good place to be. Posts: 1,278	I have to add, the ending of the movie was perfect, just perfect. __________________ Take time for silence. You never know what you might hear.

12-31-2006, 08:26 PM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Best Bond ever is still Sean Connery. However, I'm moving Daniel Craig into second...that's how impressed I was with him. My list is thus: Connery Craig Brosnan Dalton Moore Lazenbee (he might have scored better if he'd made more films) __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

12-31-2006, 03:28 PM	#2
suncrafter Violator of Customs Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 49	Now I want to see it, thanks.

12-31-2006, 07:57 PM	#6
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I loved it. I saw it the weekend it premiered in England. Really impressed.;

01-01-2007, 12:44 PM	#8
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	My list is: Craig Dalton Connery Moore Lazenby Brosnan doesn't even make it onto my list:P I really liked Dalton, he was my favourite Bond, just because he played it so close to the character in the books. Now though, Craig has pipped him to the top slot. He oozes danger and still has a few rough edges, a little more....soldierly than the others.

01-01-2007, 04:56 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I think I enjoy all of them like they're different wines and I don't want to rank them. Moore is not generally liked as much, but his subtle sense of humor and timing was really cool. Brosnan's acting was OK (and he was brilliant in last year's The Matador) but the films were too action-filmy fake for me.

01-02-2007, 12:48 PM	#10
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	The Dalton/Brosnan years saw a marked improvement in the quality of Bond films, until the disatrous "Die Another Day", when they returned to the Mooresque camp and BS in spades. I'm not saying I didn't like the Moore era films. I did and do. But I've always preferred rather more serious Bond films, which is why I am so enamoured of the new "Casino Royale". The Moore Bond always reminds me of the old TV "Batman", another character who can be very well done with a very serious bent, but which also worked as high camp and humor. My opinion of Moore as Bond suffers because of the films he was in, and not due to his having been an inadequate Bond. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

01-07-2007, 09:28 AM	#13
Cyclefrance Pump my ride! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deep countryside of Surrey , England Posts: 1,890	Craig was good - I think he set himelf up for the parT after his role in Layer Cake. Casino Rotyale was agood film overall with a satisfying mix of stunts, special effects and pure adrenaline stuff. A friend of mine got fed up with the high level of product placement throughout the film (Omega watch, Sony Vaio, Ford whatever-it-was, and so on) that I looked out for it myself, but quickly found that the film took over my attention more than the products. __________________ Always sufficient hills - never sufficient gears

01-07-2007, 01:45 PM	#14
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Craig is soooooooooooo fookin' hot he burns my eyeballs---in a good way!! forget Pitt, Cruise, Washington, all the bad boys, Craig crushes them all! (except Connery. when Connery was In The Day he made all the girls whimper) [slaver, slaver, slaver] You all should see Craig in the film SYLVIA. He played Ted Hughes to Paltrow's Sylvia Plath. He made me PPS--really non-sequitur--the newsanchor for channel 2 (?) here in Dayton is dating Earl of Spencer---Diana's brother. Ga-ross. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum Last edited by Trilby; 01-07-2007 at 01:48 PM.

01-08-2007, 07:53 AM	#15
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Really Bri? Which one? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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