The Dallas Cowboys Update Thread - Page 19

W.HI.P · 12-10-2011, 02:24 PM

@UT

The money Vegas collects is not worthy of mentioning.
Landbrokes takes the majority of these bets, as they own, or co-own most collectors.
This is a web linked to royalty.
Looking further into it, you'll find major media outlets in the same web, including the NFL network.
Forget the ball players, its all controlled through the top of the franchise's.
The NFL is in the negative and would not exist without the gambling money.

...and yes, it is the expectation that guides the weekly spreads.... not quite so in Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games, or in the play-offs.
These are the key games to the profits and the majority of them are predetermined.
If they weren't, I probably wouldn't be making the money that I do.
For its is these predetermined games that i build my base for each week, based on opposing the expectations of the masses which are rarely met.
When it comes to the Packers winning the Superbowl, well, the web collecting those billions of dollars, simply can't afford the Green Bay Packers winning the Superbowl, and therefore they won't.

Undertoad · 12-10-2011, 02:37 PM

Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much

W.HI.P · 12-10-2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much

Well sure it does.
I bet against the masses... i bet on the house winning.
The masses lose, the house wins, there is no coincidence.

jimhelm · 12-10-2011, 02:52 PM

I just don't get how the gambling money funds the league. Seems like there would be some kind of paper trail if that were true.

One of us is definitely in toot toot land. when 2 people are on an elevator, and one of them farts... they both know who did it.

jimhelm · 12-10-2011, 02:54 PM

and if it was just who wins what games... like the packers winning the super bowl, why would there be a point spread.

your argument is invalid

W.HI.P · 12-10-2011, 03:21 PM

Just so you all get a better picture of the facts, I'll give them to you.
The 3 preseason favorites and the result

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2006-2007
1)Pittsburgh Steelers
2)Denver Broncos
3)Dallas Cowboys

The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2007-2008
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Chicago Bears

The New York Giants won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2008-2009
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)San Diego Chargers

The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2009-2010
1)New England Patriots
2)Pittsburgh Steelers
3)New York giants

The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2010-2011
1)New Orleans Saints
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Baltimore Ravens

The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2011 -2012
1)Green Bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)Philadelphia Eagles

The ____________ Won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

This pattern goes all the way back to 1985.

W.HI.P · 12-10-2011, 03:24 PM

If you could go back in time, all you'd really have to do every year, is exclude the top 3 favorites every season, and you'd have a chance.

W.HI.P · 02-11-2012, 12:43 AM

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2006-2007
1)Pittsburgh Steelers
2)Denver Broncos
3)Dallas Cowboys

The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2007-2008
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Chicago Bears

The New York Giants won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2008-2009
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)San Diego Chargers

The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2009-2010
1)New England Patriots
2)Pittsburgh Steelers
3)New York giants

The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2010-2011
1)New Orleans Saints
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Baltimore Ravens

The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2011 -2012
1)Green Bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)Philadelphia Eagles

The New York Giants Won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2012-2013
1)Green bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)New Orleans Saints

The _________ Won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

It just goes on and on... expect it!

Undertoad · 12-10-2011, 04:32 PM

But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends.

In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.

monster · 12-10-2011, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends.

In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.

Well almost everyone has a head, but approx 50% are no-tails....

W.HI.P · 12-10-2011, 06:16 PM

So lets get this straight....
The guys collecting the money, are the same guys that run the media that tells everyone what to bet one.
They create the most lop-sided perceptions possible, which results in
humans, sheep-like as they are, betting on whatever they tell them to bet on, and they end up losing their money.

Show me a major event, where loads of money was gambled, where the house lost and the masses won.
It doesn't happen!
It can't always be a coincidence, can it?
How long are you guys gonna keep believing that?

Try betting against the masses in the next major gambling match-up.
I'm trying to help you guys make a little bit of money.
Take it... its free

Or is it like, I'm ruining it for you.
You enjoy watching football, and you want it to be fair, and even if it isn't, you'd rather not know about it.

J.D.DIAMOND · 12-10-2011, 09:44 PM

Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha.

Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.

W.HI.P · 12-11-2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND

Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha.

Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.

We've done this here before, I have no pride... I only wish to share.

The Packers won't win the Superbowl, and yet, no one will really see anything.
They'll then have a mind set that the team that wins the 2011-2012 Superbowl has a chance to repeat in 2012-2013.
Sheep.

J.D.DIAMOND · 12-12-2011, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

We've done this here before, I have no pride... I only wish to share.

The Packers won't win the Superbowl, and yet, no one will really see anything.

I think that this will change this year W.HI.P ,I don't know man,I don't care for them but the Green Bay Packers are so good right now,the last 3 games are : At Kansas City which is an easy win,then Chicago at Green Bay and Detroit at Green Bay which will easily give them 16-0 easily.

Then they have a first round bye,then 2 playoff games at Green Bay which they will easily win those 2 games and then they will beat any AFC team in the Super Bowl.

I have to say I really think that they will repeat this year....maybe all the gambling money wants the pckers to win,not lose...thats why they are unbeatable this year?

plthijinx · 12-10-2011, 11:44 PM

um go texans?

they're hurt bad. but are conforming to their plight. defense defense defense. wade phillips sucks as a head coach but he sure as hell knows how to run a defense!

back on track though, if betting is your thing shit i'm not stopping you and sure as hell no one else is here either. go bet. have fun! spreads to me are driven by the IR list. not a good example but go watch errr tolerate "the last boy scout"

12-10-2011, 02:24 PM	#1
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	@UT The money Vegas collects is not worthy of mentioning. Landbrokes takes the majority of these bets, as they own, or co-own most collectors. This is a web linked to royalty. Looking further into it, you'll find major media outlets in the same web, including the NFL network. Forget the ball players, its all controlled through the top of the franchise's. The NFL is in the negative and would not exist without the gambling money. ...and yes, it is the expectation that guides the weekly spreads.... not quite so in Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games, or in the play-offs. These are the key games to the profits and the majority of them are predetermined. If they weren't, I probably wouldn't be making the money that I do. For its is these predetermined games that i build my base for each week, based on opposing the expectations of the masses which are rarely met. When it comes to the Packers winning the Superbowl, well, the web collecting those billions of dollars, simply can't afford the Green Bay Packers winning the Superbowl, and therefore they won't. __________________ pls stfu k thx Last edited by W.HI.P; 12-10-2011 at 02:33 PM.

12-10-2011, 02:52 PM	#4
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I just don't get how the gambling money funds the league. Seems like there would be some kind of paper trail if that were true. One of us is definitely in toot toot land. when 2 people are on an elevator, and one of them farts... they both know who did it. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-10-2011, 02:54 PM	#5
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	and if it was just who wins what games... like the packers winning the super bowl, why would there be a point spread. your argument is invalid __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-10-2011, 03:21 PM	#6
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	Just so you all get a better picture of the facts, I'll give them to you. The 3 preseason favorites and the result ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2006-2007 1)Pittsburgh Steelers 2)Denver Broncos 3)Dallas Cowboys The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2007-2008 1)New England Patriots 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)Chicago Bears The New York Giants won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2008-2009 1)New England Patriots 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)San Diego Chargers The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2009-2010 1)New England Patriots 2)Pittsburgh Steelers 3)New York giants The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010-2011 1)New Orleans Saints 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)Baltimore Ravens The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2011 -2012 1)Green Bay Packers 2)New England Patriots 3)Philadelphia Eagles The ____________ Won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This pattern goes all the way back to 1985. __________________ pls stfu k thx Last edited by W.HI.P; 12-10-2011 at 03:30 PM.

12-10-2011, 03:24 PM	#7
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	If you could go back in time, all you'd really have to do every year, is exclude the top 3 favorites every season, and you'd have a chance. __________________ pls stfu k thx

12-10-2011, 02:37 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much

02-11-2012, 12:43 AM	#8
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2006-2007 1)Pittsburgh Steelers 2)Denver Broncos 3)Dallas Cowboys The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2007-2008 1)New England Patriots 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)Chicago Bears The New York Giants won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2008-2009 1)New England Patriots 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)San Diego Chargers The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2009-2010 1)New England Patriots 2)Pittsburgh Steelers 3)New York giants The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010-2011 1)New Orleans Saints 2)Indianapolis Colts 3)Baltimore Ravens The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2011 -2012 1)Green Bay Packers 2)New England Patriots 3)Philadelphia Eagles The New York Giants Won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2012-2013 1)Green bay Packers 2)New England Patriots 3)New Orleans Saints The _________ Won the Superbowl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It just goes on and on... expect it! __________________ pls stfu k thx

12-10-2011, 04:32 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends. In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.

12-10-2011, 06:16 PM	#11
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	So lets get this straight.... The guys collecting the money, are the same guys that run the media that tells everyone what to bet one. They create the most lop-sided perceptions possible, which results in humans, sheep-like as they are, betting on whatever they tell them to bet on, and they end up losing their money. Show me a major event, where loads of money was gambled, where the house lost and the masses won. It doesn't happen! It can't always be a coincidence, can it? How long are you guys gonna keep believing that? Try betting against the masses in the next major gambling match-up. I'm trying to help you guys make a little bit of money. Take it... its free Or is it like, I'm ruining it for you. You enjoy watching football, and you want it to be fair, and even if it isn't, you'd rather not know about it. __________________ pls stfu k thx

12-10-2011, 09:44 PM	#12
J.D.DIAMOND Compatriot-at-Arms Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle Washington,U.S.A. Posts: 106	Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha. Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.

12-10-2011, 11:44 PM	#15
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	um go texans? they're hurt bad. but are conforming to their plight. defense defense defense. wade phillips sucks as a head coach but he sure as hell knows how to run a defense! back on track though, if betting is your thing shit i'm not stopping you and sure as hell no one else is here either. go bet. have fun! spreads to me are driven by the IR list. not a good example but go watch errr tolerate "the last boy scout" __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

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