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				Utopia: Can or should it exist?
			 
			
			
			I've heard the phrases - "Utopia doesn't exist."  or "In a perfect world. . . . . " 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Is this something we should individually and collectively be working toward or is it truly just a pipe dream - something that has absolutely no chance of happening? thoughts? opinions?  | 
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			It can't happen, because people suck.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It can't happen because everyone has a different idea about what Utopia is. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I'm pretty certain my idea of a perfect world would be far different from the perfect world someone like ummm...let's say LJ might dream of. 
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			 We have to go back, Kate! 
			
			
			
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			The trouble with utopian visions is that they have a tendency to demand uniformity. that's the sort of thinking that led to eugenics.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Not starting shit.  Just making an example from our vastly different views on the way the world should be run.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			edit: I could have used many others also, such as Maggie, UG, 9th etc. Don't be paranoid. 
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			 I can hear my ears 
			
			
			
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			are you starting shit?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Grow up LJ.  Can't you just leave things alone?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			you must be starting shit
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Do you have opposite political to views or me or not?  If not, then I retract my statement. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			If so, either respond to the question or stop trying to start shit. That's all there is to it. 
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			First of all, the word utopia itself means that it cannot exist. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	u=not + topia=society. utopia=A society that doesn't exist A Eutopia is a society that is in perfect harmony but the Greek's realized that a perfect society is impossible, so they used utopia and it caught on. Read "Brave New World" or "1984" for a good view on a dystopia, or a eutopia gone wrong.  | 
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			 I can hear my ears 
			
			
			
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			ali, you still don't think i'm funny?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			stop shit-stirrng, LJ
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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