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03-20-2007, 08:55 AM | #1 |
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Affirmative Action Unnecessary?
I work in an office with 7 people. The owner is a Christian Caucasions. All of the employees are "Christian" Caucasions. This county is about 70% white
RACE AND ETHNICITY White 70.9 Black or African American 18.1 American Indian and Alaska native 0.3 Asian 3.7 Native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.0 Some other race 5.1 Two or more races 1.9 Hispanic or Latino 9.7 and we are about 2 miles from the city of Camden, NJ., which is about 17% white. Demographics As of the census of 2000 16.84% White, 53.35% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.45% Asian, 0.07% Pacific Islander, 22.83% from other races, 3.92% from two or more races. 38.82% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. If hiring practices were truly color blind, shouldn't this office have at least one minority working here? Since no minority works here, is there something going on (consciously or unconsciously)? Is it right that no minority works here, given the makeup of the local population?
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03-20-2007, 09:10 AM | #2 |
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What are the actual racial demographics in Optometry schools ... not just entry, but graduation numbers? This would say more about your hiring pool than your community demographics.
Hiring should be based solely on ability. Not race, gender, religion, or any other granfalloon. Admittedly, I am surprised that you don't have any Jews in your office. If you're that uptight about it, tell your boss to fire his wife who's working as the receptionist/bookkeeper, and tell him he has to hire a black man.
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03-20-2007, 09:12 AM | #3 |
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Not all are professionals. We're talking receptionist, tech, office manager, billing clerk.
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03-20-2007, 09:17 AM | #4 |
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Each one of those non-professional jobs you list has its own set of required qualifications. Was the most qualified candidate hired in each instance?
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BTW wolf, I'm not "uptight" about it. I'm just trying to show why affirmative action is necessary.
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03-20-2007, 10:19 AM | #6 |
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She doesn't work here.
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03-20-2007, 12:15 PM | #7 |
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03-20-2007, 10:43 AM | #9 |
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Leicester statistics in the same format:
63.8 - White 3.07% - Black 29.9% - Asian 0.5% - Chinese 0.32% - Other race 2.32% - Mixed race Now when I look around my office I would say that approx 25% of the staff are non-white, which roughly matches the population. I would say this has been the case in every office I've worked in (the percentage roughly reflects the diversity of the location I mean, not the precise percentage shown above). On the one hand I find the idea of affirmative action quite sinister - choosing a candidate because of the colour of their skin rather than because of their ability. However I find the idea of an all-white office in such an ethnically diverse area rather sinister as well - for exactly the same reason.
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Post the whole quote, because when AA was used in my office that person got NO respect. People walked past their office to go to someone's office who got their job based on their criteria alone.
How would you feel if you got a job instead of someone with more education, more experience, more training and a higher license? I would feel like a schmuck and decline the job. The fact is that no one is kept out of college because they are black or female now, so the point is moot. AA is harmful, only harmful, for all involved. No, she was not racist, she just wants the best students to get the positions in the school. The kid that got the position had not even been involved in their school's theatre group and did not even have the GPA Yale required to get into their Theatre school (just the best minority applicant that year). Again, since you did not read it the first time, it was GPA, clubs, student government and community service that I had been involved with. She begged me to wait a year (not something I was willing to do). The other student had no extra-curricular activities. White male students recently sued a major Texas school for doing this, they won, I am glad they did. Lowering standards should be illegal in all cases. Quote:
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03-20-2007, 05:12 PM | #12 |
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We need to force the NY diamond market, Curves and the NAACP to fully and equally integrate at all levels then.
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03-22-2007, 04:41 AM | #13 |
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AA is a farce. Plain and simple. To hire someone based purely on color is the same as having token negros to empty the trash just so you can say you hired one. Same for any other color. There is an idea in America that you cannot be discriminated against unless you are a non-white. That crap has got to stop. For every racist white person you find I can show you a black who is equally racist. Hiring practices should be based solely on merit. Nothing more, nothing less. Let the chips fall where they will after that. Screw afirmative blacksion.
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AA should only be a temporary solution to a bigger problem but all it is a cover up to make it seem that we care about minorities just like black hisotry month. If we wanted to help the minorities we would make it easier for them to get the qualifications most white people have but that is too much work and the racist agenda wouldn't approve of it. Being against AA isn't racist but denying the fact that minorities are at a disavantage is. |
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