societal advances smackdown (0-1750 AD vs 1751 AD- present)

lumberjim · 03-14-2009, 12:23 PM

Would you say that the advances made in 'the world' prior to 1750 AD are more significant than those made in the last 259 years?

which would you point to as examples?

Shawnee123 · 03-14-2009, 12:44 PM

I don't think I'm smart enough to be here. This could be a great discussion though. I looked for some kind of timeline but had no luck.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-14-2009, 12:50 PM

No question we can kill more people in less time.

SteveDallas · 03-14-2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

Would you say that the advances made in 'the world' prior to 1750 AD are more significant than those made in the last 259 years?

which would you point to as examples?

a) Why 1750?
b) Do you mean "the dawn of time to 1750" or "0 AD - 1750 AD"?

lumberjim · 03-14-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDallas

a) Why 1750?
b) Do you mean "the dawn of time to 1750" or "0 AD - 1750 AD"?

I did mean the dawn of time....but that's not what i wrote.....

classicman · 03-14-2009, 01:18 PM

By advances, do you mean discoveries or inventions/creations?

lumberjim · 03-14-2009, 01:33 PM

you're on your own to interpret the question as it is phrased.

classicman · 03-14-2009, 01:35 PM

lol, That got you to change your usertitle?

Then I'll go with FIRE! Whenever we figured out that one wins

sugarpop · 03-14-2009, 01:40 PM

hmmm. I would say some of the earliest discoveries/inventions were the most important, like the discovery of how to make and use fire, or the advent of the wheel. Is that what you mean?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-14-2009, 01:42 PM

And sex.

sugarpop · 03-14-2009, 01:44 PM

Also, agriculture, the aquaducts, plumbing and the baths...

sugarpop · 03-14-2009, 01:48 PM

medicine, contraception, tools, writing, mathematics.

sugarpop · 03-14-2009, 01:49 PM

I'll stop now.

Undertoad · 03-14-2009, 02:55 PM

The official list from Civilization 4 (and in parens, some things the technologies lead to)

Pre-1750 (approx):

Fishing
Wheel (roads)
Agriculture
Hunting
Mysticism
Mining
Sailing
Pottery
Animal Husbandry
Archery
Meditation (Buddhism)
Polytheism (Hinduism)
Masonry
Horseback Riding
Priesthood (temples)
Monotheism (Judaism)
Bronze Working (slavery)
Writing (libraries)
Metal Casting
Iron Working
Alphabet
Mathematics
Monarchy
Compass
Literature
Calendar
Construction
Currency (markets, grocers)
Machinery
Drama
Engineering
Code of Laws (caste system, Confusianism)
Feudalism (serfdom)
Optics
Music
Philosophy (Taoism, Pacifism)
Theology (Christianity)
Guilds
Divine Right (Islam)
Paper
Banking
Nationalism (nationhood)
Printing Press
Education
Astronomy
Gunpowder

Post-1750 (approx);

Military Tradition
Constitution (representation)
Replaceable Parts
Liberalism (free speech, free religion)
Economics (free markets)
Democracy (universal sufferage, emancipation)
Rifling
Corporation
Chemistry
Steam Power
Scientific Method
Steel
Assembly Line (factory)
Communism
Physics
Biology
Railroad
Flight
Artillery
Fascism
Electricity
Medicine (environmentalism)
Combustion
Rocketry
Industrialism
Fission (nuclear power, The Bomb)
Refrigeration
Radio
Satellites
Plastics
Computers
Mass Media
Composites
Fiber Optics (Internet)
Ecology
Genetics
Robotics

jinx · 03-14-2009, 02:57 PM

What about all the things Ayla invented? That list alone would be longer than what UT just posted....

03-14-2009, 12:23 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	societal advances smackdown (0-1750 AD vs 1751 AD- present) Would you say that the advances made in 'the world' prior to 1750 AD are more significant than those made in the last 259 years? which would you point to as examples? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-14-2009, 12:44 PM	#2
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I don't think I'm smart enough to be here. This could be a great discussion though. I looked for some kind of timeline but had no luck. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-14-2009, 12:50 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No question we can kill more people in less time. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-14-2009, 01:18 PM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	By advances, do you mean discoveries or inventions/creations? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-14-2009, 01:33 PM	#7
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	you're on your own to interpret the question as it is phrased. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-14-2009, 01:35 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lol, That got you to change your usertitle? Then I'll go with FIRE! Whenever we figured out that one wins __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-14-2009, 01:40 PM	#9
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	hmmm. I would say some of the earliest discoveries/inventions were the most important, like the discovery of how to make and use fire, or the advent of the wheel. Is that what you mean?

03-14-2009, 01:42 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	And sex. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-14-2009, 01:44 PM	#11
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	Also, agriculture, the aquaducts, plumbing and the baths...

03-14-2009, 01:48 PM	#12
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	medicine, contraception, tools, writing, mathematics.

03-14-2009, 01:49 PM	#13
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I'll stop now.

03-14-2009, 02:55 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The official list from Civilization 4 (and in parens, some things the technologies lead to) Pre-1750 (approx): Fishing Wheel (roads) Agriculture Hunting Mysticism Mining Sailing Pottery Animal Husbandry Archery Meditation (Buddhism) Polytheism (Hinduism) Masonry Horseback Riding Priesthood (temples) Monotheism (Judaism) Bronze Working (slavery) Writing (libraries) Metal Casting Iron Working Alphabet Mathematics Monarchy Compass Literature Calendar Construction Currency (markets, grocers) Machinery Drama Engineering Code of Laws (caste system, Confusianism) Feudalism (serfdom) Optics Music Philosophy (Taoism, Pacifism) Theology (Christianity) Guilds Divine Right (Islam) Paper Banking Nationalism (nationhood) Printing Press Education Astronomy Gunpowder Post-1750 (approx); Military Tradition Constitution (representation) Replaceable Parts Liberalism (free speech, free religion) Economics (free markets) Democracy (universal sufferage, emancipation) Rifling Corporation Chemistry Steam Power Scientific Method Steel Assembly Line (factory) Communism Physics Biology Railroad Flight Artillery Fascism Electricity Medicine (environmentalism) Combustion Rocketry Industrialism Fission (nuclear power, The Bomb) Refrigeration Radio Satellites Plastics Computers Mass Media Composites Fiber Optics (Internet) Ecology Genetics Robotics

03-14-2009, 02:57 PM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	What about all the things Ayla invented? That list alone would be longer than what UT just posted.... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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