State of The Asstard

Pangloss62 · 01-27-2007, 10:04 AM

"This is not the fight we entered in Iraq, but it is the fight we're in." W.

That has got to be one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. Only a Maggie L. could not interpret that statement as anything but the most cynical insult to our citizens, let alone the friends and families of the war dead.

"There are some who feel like that the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is bring them on."

This is the fight that this administration (not "we") CREATED!

Perry Winkle · 01-27-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62

This is the fight that this administration (not "we") CREATED!

We, the people, not necessarily you or me, gave them, our elected officials, the power they used to start the war. So to some degree or another, we, the people, including you and me, are responsible.

Any suggestions on how we make them fix the problem? How should we punish them for abusing our trust?

I can think of some drastic solutions to either, but I doubt enough of us are prepared to pay that price.

(aren't those quotes from older speeches?)

Toymented · 01-27-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

We, the people, not necessarily you or me, gave them, our elected officials, the power they used to start the war. So to some degree or another, we, the people, including you and me, are responsible.

No way, we the people are NOT responsible for this. This is an abuse of their position.

Perry Winkle · 01-27-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymented

No way, we the people are NOT responsible for this. This is an abuse of their position.

Responsibility, along with its good friend guilt, is both transitive and diffuse.

Toymented · 01-27-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

Responsibility, along with its good friend guilt, is both transitive and diffuse.

I don't think they feel guilty. I'm damn sure I don't.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymented

No way, we the people are NOT responsible for this. This is an abuse of their position.

Not only did "We the People" not stop him, "We the People" reelected him. That makes 'We the People" responsible.

Trilby · 01-27-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Not only did "We the People" not stop him, "We the People" reelected him. That makes 'We the People" responsible.

I totally did not vote for him.

richlevy · 01-28-2007, 10:16 AM

People get the government they deserve. This works for Iraq and the United State(s).

xoxoxoBruce · 01-28-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

I totally did not vote for him.

But you are not "We the People", nobody is. The "We the People" allowing the whole fiasco, is the majority.

This is an exellent example of why the Bill of Rights, preventing the majority from imposing on the minority, is so important.

Shawnee123 · 01-29-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

"We the People" :

It musta been "Ouija People" because I had nothing to do with electing him!

Spexxvet · 01-29-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It musta been "Ouija People" because I had nothing to do with electing him!

xoxoxoBruce · 01-30-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

I totally did not vote for him.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But you are not "We the People", nobody is. The "We the People" allowing the whole fiasco, is the majority.

This is an exellent example of why the Bill of Rights, preventing the majority from imposing on the minority, is so important.

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It musta been "Ouija People" because I had nothing to do with electing him!

See above.:p

Aliantha · 01-27-2007, 09:49 PM

So what're you the people going to do next time then? (obviously GWB can't go again, but one of his mates will and he/she will probably have the same influences)

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-28-2007, 11:16 PM

Pangloss, explain something: just where in your (poorer than mine) thinking is any consideration that our foes hit at us repeatedly, and lethally, over the span of eighteen years before we replied to any effect? Since you seem to need a reminder, these were Beirut 1983, WTC 1993, USS Cole, the embassies, and finally 9/11. Our longsufferingness gives us enormous virtue, my friend. They woke the giant, and they better own that.

These people really really really wanted a war. We Americans have no business complaining if at too long last they got one. So what the hell do you think you're accomplishing but aid and comfort to foes who deserve neither?

Kitsune · 01-29-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

They woke the giant, and they better own that.

Oh, great, another person speaking of this as if it were WWII and the US has come to save the world from the great evil. This is getting really old.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Americans really really really wanted a war.

Fixed that.

01-27-2007, 10:04 AM	#1
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	State of The Asstard "This is not the fight we entered in Iraq, but it is the fight we're in." W. That has got to be one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. Only a Maggie L. could not interpret that statement as anything but the most cynical insult to our citizens, let alone the friends and families of the war dead. *"There are some who feel like that the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is bring them on."* This is the fight that this administration (not "we") CREATED! __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

01-28-2007, 10:16 AM	#8
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	People get the government they deserve. This works for Iraq and the United State(s). __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

01-27-2007, 09:49 PM	#13
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	So what're you the people going to do next time then? (obviously GWB can't go again, but one of his mates will and he/she will probably have the same influences) __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-28-2007, 11:16 PM	#14
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Pangloss, explain something: just where in your (poorer than mine) thinking is any consideration that our foes hit at us repeatedly, and lethally, over the span of eighteen years before we replied to any effect? Since you seem to need a reminder, these were Beirut 1983, WTC 1993, USS Cole, the embassies, and finally 9/11. Our longsufferingness gives us enormous virtue, my friend. They woke the giant, and they better own that. These people really really really wanted a war. We Americans have no business complaining if at too long last they got one. So what the hell do you think you're accomplishing but aid and comfort to foes who deserve neither? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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