Let's Get Rid of the Politics Forum

lumberjim · 02-22-2010, 11:51 PM

Because it is a breeding ground for douchebaggery and team hatred.

It makes people I like look like dicks. It spills over into the rest of the house, and sucks in general. Nothing you politics thread posting dickholes says is going to change the mind of the other dickhole you're arguing with's mind in any way....so Shut The Fuck Up and Hug. We are smart enough to know we shouldn't argue about religion......why do you argue about Politics?

This is NOT(or at least didn't used to be) a politics forum. Go scratch that itch somewhere else! This is a coffee shop with no coffee and no shop! It is a Forum about nothing. It's a Pub where your friends hang out......

You might say that I have no right to attempt to limit discussion. you might say that I have no right to tell you what you should discuss. you might say that i have no right to kill a hobo...... but I say unto thee.....

you're all being intolerably irritating.

don't make me post a poll.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-22-2010, 11:55 PM

No.

lumberjim · 02-22-2010, 11:55 PM

shut up. this is serious business

skysidhe · 02-23-2010, 12:11 AM

lol
That was so oratorical.

ZenGum · 02-23-2010, 02:20 AM

Yeah, you should run for office or something. I'd vote for ya!

sexobon · 02-23-2010, 03:12 AM

Let's change the forum name and forum title from:

Politics
How humans control the powers that control them

To:

Town Hall Meeting
A friendly little forum, with no town and no hall to get run out of

limey · 02-23-2010, 03:18 AM

I've never been in the politics forum because I fear it would irritate me. Seems like I'm doing the right thing (for me). It's true that sometimes the politics seeps through into other forums but I can usually see which threads are heading that way and I stop reading them, too ...

DanaC · 02-23-2010, 03:25 AM

If we don't have the Politics forum then every forum becomes political:P

Griff · 02-23-2010, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

you're all being intolerably irritating.

Truth. No-one is learning anything in politics right now, everyone is so convinced that they are right.

glatt · 02-23-2010, 07:47 AM

One thing I love about this place is that people in the Cellar have sometimes changed my long held political beliefs with their thoughtful posts. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened in about 3 years or so. The politics forum is a big pile of shit now, and it's because the handful of the most prolific posters there have no apparent desire to learn. Who knows? Maybe I'm looking at the past with rose colored glasses. All I know is that I mostly scroll past the posts of the regulars in the politics forums, looking for anything anyone else has to say.

I don't want to be Hubris Boy, and I apologize if I come off that way.

tw · 02-25-2010, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

The politics forum is a big pile of shit now, and it's because the handful of the most prolific posters there have no apparent desire to learn.

Appreciate all through history, you post demonstrates why extremists are so successful. By making things nasty, those who learn from intelligent thought zone out. And those inspired mostly by the hype of the attack are empowered.

Limbaugh taking constant cheap shots at Hilary only inspired his disciples. Others zoned out leaving the field dominated by those disciples. And made so many others emotionally dislike Hilary. How to above the nastiness? Avoid Hilary. Emotionally associate Hilary with the nastiness. Cheap shots and insults (unfortunately) tend to get many or most to believe the attacker.

For example, why did Saddam have WMDs? Because cheap shots, lies, and emotional diatribes *proved* he was evil. Fact that Saddam was desperately trying to restore his “American ally” standing somehow got completely buried in hype, hate, and overt lies. Therefore Saddam must have attacked the WTC. Even when numbers said Saddam’s WMDs should not exist, still, 70% believed the myth anyway. Because hype and hate combined with overt lies work when others (ie you) do not challenge that 'hate agenda' with rational thought and damning questions.

Why did the KKK have so much sympathy in the old South? Hate, emotion, and popular myths were enough, even among otherwise intelligent people, to sympathize with the KKK.

A perfect example of how easy emotions can inspire lies: surge protectors. Did you assume that protector on your computer power cord does any protection? Why? Or did you ask those damning questions? Did you ask for ‘whys’? No facts say so. No numbers say so. Well proven science says otherwise. And yet an overwhelming majority will buy that protector only because they were told what to believe. Entertained their emotions rather than think logically. Blindly empower liars by simply not learning the difference between emotional hype and logical thought.

Emotion can easily subvert logical thought – especially when one does not always demand/learn fundamental facts. Especially when feeling rather than analyze numbers. Especially when one does not ask and demand answers to damning questions. Especially when conclusions are in black and white rather than based in perspectives.

Undertoad · 02-23-2010, 07:52 AM

If you want to improve the Politics forum, post there.

glatt · 02-23-2010, 08:02 AM

Yeah, I know. I've given the same advice to others.

lumberjim · 02-23-2010, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

If you want to improve the Politics forum, post there.

I don't want to improve the politics forum.

jinx · 02-23-2010, 08:45 AM

It's a vehicle for the hateful.

02-22-2010, 11:51 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Let's Get Rid of the Politics Forum Because it is a breeding ground for douchebaggery and team hatred. It makes people I like look like dicks. It spills over into the rest of the house, and sucks in general. Nothing you politics thread posting dickholes says is going to change the mind of the other dickhole you're arguing with's mind in any way....so Shut The Fuck Up and Hug. We are smart enough to know we shouldn't argue about religion......why do you argue about Politics? This is NOT(or at least didn't used to be) a politics forum. Go scratch that itch somewhere else! This is a coffee shop with no coffee and no shop! It is a Forum about nothing. It's a Pub where your friends hang out...... You might say that I have no right to attempt to limit discussion. you might say that I have no right to tell you what you should discuss. you might say that i have no right to kill a hobo...... but I say unto thee..... you're all being intolerably irritating. don't make me post a poll. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-22-2010, 11:55 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-22-2010, 11:55 PM	#3
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	shut up. this is serious business __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-23-2010, 02:20 AM	#5
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Yeah, you should run for office or something. I'd vote for ya! __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-23-2010, 03:12 AM	#6
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Politically Correct Makeover Let's change the forum name and forum title from: Politics How humans control the powers that control them To: Town Hall Meeting A friendly little forum, with no town and no hall to get run out of

02-23-2010, 12:11 AM	#4
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	lol That was so oratorical.

02-23-2010, 03:18 AM	#7
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	I've never been in the politics forum because I fear it would irritate me. Seems like I'm doing the right thing (for me). It's true that sometimes the politics seeps through into other forums but I can usually see which threads are heading that way and I stop reading them, too ... __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

02-23-2010, 07:47 AM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	One thing I love about this place is that people in the Cellar have sometimes changed my long held political beliefs with their thoughtful posts. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened in about 3 years or so. The politics forum is a big pile of shit now, and it's because the handful of the most prolific posters there have no apparent desire to learn. Who knows? Maybe I'm looking at the past with rose colored glasses. All I know is that I mostly scroll past the posts of the regulars in the politics forums, looking for anything anyone else has to say. I don't want to be Hubris Boy, and I apologize if I come off that way.

02-23-2010, 07:52 AM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	If you want to improve the Politics forum, post there.

02-23-2010, 08:02 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, I know. I've given the same advice to others.

02-23-2010, 08:45 AM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	It's a vehicle for the hateful. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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