I think, therefore I am.

jimhelm · 06-15-2011, 08:09 AM

True or False?

skysidhe · 06-15-2011, 08:18 AM

False.

It is not proof of life.

Gravdigr · 06-16-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe

False.

It is not proof of life.

I think thought is proof of life, it's just not proof of intelligence.

infinite monkey · 06-16-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

I think thought is proof of life, it's just not proof of intelligence.

Just like posting.

Gravdigr · 06-18-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Just like posting.

You post a damn sight more than I do.

GunMaster357 · 06-15-2011, 08:43 AM

Don't know. I need to think about it.

There a lot of people out there who don't think at all but they do exist if only to make you mad.

glatt · 06-15-2011, 08:46 AM

Yes. Of course it's true.

DanaC · 06-15-2011, 08:56 AM

For there to be a thought there has to be an I.

Pete Zicato · 06-15-2011, 09:00 AM

Establishment:
Of course you are, my bright little star...
I've miles and miles of files
Pretty files of your forefather's fruit
And now to suit our great computer
You're magnetic ink!

GunMaster357 · 06-16-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

For there to be a thought there has to be an I.

There's no 'i' in 'thought' !

Happy Monkey · 06-15-2011, 10:39 AM

True, but nothing else can be derived from it.

jimhelm · 06-15-2011, 11:09 AM

from this book

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The seventeenthcentury
philosopher Descartes, regarded as the
founder of modern philosophy, gave expression to this primary error with his
famous dictum (which he saw as primary truth): “I think, therefore I am.”
This was the answer he found to the question “Is there anything I can know
with absolute certainty?” He realized that the fact that he was always
thinking was beyond doubt, and so he equated thinking with Being, that is to
say, identity – I am – with thinking. Instead of the ultimate truth, he had
found the root of the ego, but he didn't know that.
It took almost three hundred years before another famous philosopher
saw something in that statement that Descartes, as well as everybody else,
had overlooked. His name was JeanPaul
Sartre. He looked at Descartes's
statement “I think, therefore I am” very deeply and suddenly realized, in his
own words, “The consciousness that says 'I am' is not the consciousness that
thinks.” What did he mean by that? When you are aware that you are
thinking, that awareness is not part of thinking. It is a different dimension of
consciousness. And it is that awareness that says “I am.” If there were
nothing but thought in you, you wouldn't even know you are thinking. You
would be like a dreamer who doesn't know he is dreaming. You would be as
identified with every thought as the dreamer is with every image in the
dream.

skysidhe · 06-15-2011, 11:35 AM

I do not have to be in a state of 'thinkingness' to know I exist.

If you hit your thumb with a hammer, it hurts like hell. The fact that it hurts like hell tells you, you are quite alive and I bet there isn't any philosophical pondering over it either.

Pico and ME · 06-15-2011, 11:52 AM

Yeah, but, you are thinking 'that effin hurts like hell!!!!'.

BigV · 06-17-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Yeah, but, you are thinking 'that effin hurts like hell!!!!'.

SCF!

Now I have a mess... THANKS A LOT!@!@

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06-15-2011, 08:09 AM	#1
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I think, therefore I am. True or False? __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

06-15-2011, 08:43 AM	#6
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	Don't know. I need to think about it. There a lot of people out there who don't think at all but they do exist if only to make you mad. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

06-15-2011, 09:00 AM	#9
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Establishment: Of course you are, my bright little star... I've miles and miles of files Pretty files of your forefather's fruit And now to suit our great computer You're magnetic ink! __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

06-15-2011, 10:39 AM	#11
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	True, but nothing else can be derived from it. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-15-2011, 08:18 AM	#2
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	False. It is not proof of life.

06-15-2011, 08:46 AM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yes. Of course it's true.

06-15-2011, 11:35 AM	#13
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	I do not have to be in a state of 'thinkingness' to know I exist. If you hit your thumb with a hammer, it hurts like hell. The fact that it hurts like hell tells you, you are quite alive and I bet there isn't any philosophical pondering over it either.

06-15-2011, 11:52 AM	#14
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Yeah, but, you are thinking 'that effin hurts like hell!!!!'.

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