GIMP kind of sucks

footfootfoot · 09-13-2016, 03:20 PM

While my desktop computer is getting its shit sorted out I am stuck trying to do a lot of stuff on my linux powered laptop. I am this close to downloading a pirated version of windows 7 and putting it back on this machine except I'm not sure how it handles all that genuine advantage bullshit.

Anyway, I have a bunch of photos of the lathe project and I want to crop them, adjust perspective, correct exposure and other stuff. In theory, you can do that in GIMP. Maybe even in practice, but...

The interface and arrangement of tools is far from intuitve and some of them seem not to work at all. For example, brushes. I finally figured out how to make a new brush of a certain size. There is an option to edit an existing brush, except you can't really. If you click on the brush, and select edit it lets you change the hardness but no other parameter, those options are grayed out. What you need to do is create a new brush, not edit an existing brush (unless you are editing a brush you created) After creating a new brush with the size and hardness attributes I wanted, it didn't actually work, it kept acting like a 20 pixel brush instead of a 750 pixel brush.

FAIL

Then, when you use the rotate, shear, perspective or any other transform tools, they give you a helpful reference grid, except the grid moves along with the image so you have no way of telling how much effect you've applied to your image since the baseline reference moves with the image.

FAIL

It may be extra frustrating after coming from over a decade of photoshop use, but it is sad indeed that everyone regards this as the hands down best linux photo editing tool.

It seems like it was designed by people who never actually did any photography or image manipulation, but thought it would be easy to just write a program.

Two enthusiastic GET THE HELL OF MY LAWNs for them.

Beest · 09-13-2016, 03:25 PM

you should ask for a refund...

Beest · 09-13-2016, 03:29 PM

Adding text and then editing it or moving it around is poor too.

I lost my receipt.

footfootfoot · 09-13-2016, 03:35 PM

I had a double my money back guarantee coupon, I keep it with my √-9

fargon · 09-13-2016, 03:41 PM

Next time get an Apple they always work except when they break.

Undertoad · 09-13-2016, 03:58 PM

This showed up a while back, I haven't tried it

This Theme Pack Makes GIMP Look and Work Like Photoshop

I have just ~~bought~~ rented Photoshop for the next year for $119.

This ends the long piratey relationship I have had with Photoshop for many years. I still treasure the debate we had about that. Now that Adobe has put everything into a much more sensible pricing situation, I can no longer object.

I also rented their video editing software Premiere Pro for @30/month for two months. It's pretty good stuff.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-13-2016, 04:34 PM

Email me the photos and I'll post them while you get it sorted out.

Griff · 09-14-2016, 06:51 AM

I can't believe Toad has gone straight.

Undertoad · 03-27-2017, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I also rented their video editing software Premiere Pro for @30/month for two months. It's pretty good stuff.

I am recalling this advice because Adobe makes it impossible to cancel monthly subscriptions.

I now again recommend only pirating Adobe products.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-27-2017, 09:33 PM

I got Photoshop-1 free with little onscreen drawing thingy I hated and gave away. I bought Photoshop-12.
I use Photoshop-1 because it does what I want without a lot of extra steps.

nowhereman · 09-14-2016, 07:07 AM

Foot, check out Pixlr. (www.pixlr.com) It's browser based, although you can buy a version. Works pretty much like Photoshop. I'm not sure if the downloaded version would work with linux.

elSicomoro · 09-14-2016, 07:57 AM

UT reminds me that I need to renew my Abode sub. Of course, since I don't work for a university anymore, I don't get it on the cheap...but it's worth the cost.

footfootfoot · 09-14-2016, 08:22 AM

I'm happy with CS5 and XP*

Fuck ~~progress~~ updates

*or I will be when I get shit working again.

glatt · 09-16-2016, 01:18 PM

I like GIMP.

I learned how to do image editing when I got a legal version of photoshop about two decades ago. I was used to photoshop. At first it was annoying when I switched to the GIMP. I couldn't find anything. But then you just learn the new interface and where the shit is located. You are right that it's not always intuitive, but I don't think photoshop is either. You just use it for a while and then learn where stuff is.

Not sure what you are talking about with brushes. It's easy in my version to mess around with brushes. (Change the size and hardness, at least.) Changing the contrast and color saturation in levels is totally doable. I haven't used photoshop in some time, so maybe it's easier there.

I think you just have to get used to it and learn it.

Did you try looking on youtube for a tutorial on what you are trying to do?

Clodfobble · 09-16-2016, 02:04 PM

Is gimp still free, or does it start asking for money sometime after installation?

09-13-2016, 03:20 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	GIMP kind of sucks While my desktop computer is getting its shit sorted out I am stuck trying to do a lot of stuff on my linux powered laptop. I am this close to downloading a pirated version of windows 7 and putting it back on this machine except I'm not sure how it handles all that genuine advantage bullshit. Anyway, I have a bunch of photos of the lathe project and I want to crop them, adjust perspective, correct exposure and other stuff. In theory, you can do that in GIMP. Maybe even in practice, but... The interface and arrangement of tools is far from intuitve and some of them seem not to work at all. For example, brushes. I finally figured out how to make a new brush of a certain size. There is an option to edit an existing brush, except you can't really. If you click on the brush, and select edit it lets you change the hardness but no other parameter, those options are grayed out. What you need to do is create a new brush, not edit an existing brush (unless you are editing a brush you created) After creating a new brush with the size and hardness attributes I wanted, it didn't actually work, it kept acting like a 20 pixel brush instead of a 750 pixel brush. FAIL Then, when you use the rotate, shear, perspective or any other transform tools, they give you a helpful reference grid, except the grid moves along with the image so you have no way of telling how much effect you've applied to your image since the baseline reference moves with the image. FAIL It may be extra frustrating after coming from over a decade of photoshop use, but it is sad indeed that everyone regards this as the hands down best linux photo editing tool. It seems like it was designed by people who never actually did any photography or image manipulation, but thought it would be easy to just write a program. Two enthusiastic GET THE HELL OF MY LAWNs for them. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

09-13-2016, 03:35 PM	#4
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I had a double my money back guarantee coupon, I keep it with my √-9 __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

09-13-2016, 03:41 PM	#5
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09-13-2016, 04:34 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Email me the photos and I'll post them while you get it sorted out. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-14-2016, 06:51 AM	#8
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I can't believe Toad has gone straight. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

09-13-2016, 03:25 PM	#2
Beest Adapt and Survive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, Mi Posts: 957	you should ask for a refund...

09-13-2016, 03:29 PM	#3
Beest Adapt and Survive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, Mi Posts: 957	Adding text and then editing it or moving it around is poor too. I lost my receipt.

09-13-2016, 03:58 PM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This showed up a while back, I haven't tried it This Theme Pack Makes GIMP Look and Work Like Photoshop I have just ~~bought~~ rented Photoshop for the next year for $119. This ends the long piratey relationship I have had with Photoshop for many years. I still treasure the debate we had about that. Now that Adobe has put everything into a much more sensible pricing situation, I can no longer object. I also rented their video editing software Premiere Pro for @30/month for two months. It's pretty good stuff.

03-27-2017, 09:33 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I got Photoshop-1 free with little onscreen drawing thingy I hated and gave away. I bought Photoshop-12. I use Photoshop-1 because it does what I want without a lot of extra steps. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-14-2016, 07:07 AM	#11
nowhereman sliding down the razor blade of life Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: just over the edge Posts: 228	Foot, check out Pixlr. (www.pixlr.com) It's browser based, although you can buy a version. Works pretty much like Photoshop. I'm not sure if the downloaded version would work with linux.

09-14-2016, 07:57 AM	#12
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	UT reminds me that I need to renew my Abode sub. Of course, since I don't work for a university anymore, I don't get it on the cheap...but it's worth the cost.

09-14-2016, 08:22 AM	#13
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I'm happy with CS5 and XP* Fuck ~~progress~~ updates *or I will be when I get shit working again. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

09-16-2016, 01:18 PM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I like GIMP. I learned how to do image editing when I got a legal version of photoshop about two decades ago. I was used to photoshop. At first it was annoying when I switched to the GIMP. I couldn't find anything. But then you just learn the new interface and where the shit is located. You are right that it's not always intuitive, but I don't think photoshop is either. You just use it for a while and then learn where stuff is. Not sure what you are talking about with brushes. It's easy in my version to mess around with brushes. (Change the size and hardness, at least.) Changing the contrast and color saturation in levels is totally doable. I haven't used photoshop in some time, so maybe it's easier there. I think you just have to get used to it and learn it. Did you try looking on youtube for a tutorial on what you are trying to do?

09-16-2016, 02:04 PM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Is gimp still free, or does it start asking for money sometime after installation? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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