Attractive teachers - underage students

[lookout123]

WTF? here's another one. are you telling me that there is not one male, possibly more compatible (i.e. not underage) willing to sleep with these women? and more importantly, where were these teachers when i was a student?

and another one and another one and another one bites the dust...

[wolf]

I saw the ex-husband of Deborah LeFave interviewed (if you can call it that) on The View yesterday.

He was saying that there are a lot more cases female teacher-male student sex than are heavily reported on the news, and that there is an "attractiveness" factor (only the cute ones make the news, it seems).

He also discussed the tapes in conjunction with her attempt at an insanity defense, saying that the content of the tapes made it clear that she knew that what she was doing was wrong.

I do think it presents an unfair double standard when female teachers in these situations get charged with things like "lewdness" and males get charged with Child Abuse ... the levels of power and control are no different when the teacher is female.

[mrnoodle]

Applying my amateur psychology here:

Women with low self-esteem who are tired of being controlled by the males in their lives like the idea of being in the driver's seat, sexually. It's role-reversal, and maybe a little bit of "hey, we're both at our respective sexual peaks, let's make out". I don't really think they do it for the same reason a male abuser does. The male variant is sexually stimulated by the youth and helplessness of the victim, while the woman is attracted to the unbridled horniness of the almost-adults she has control over.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, upon further reading. But the point is, I think a male who sleeps with a 15 year old boy is coming from a completely different place than a woman who does the same thing. Doesn't make her any less of a perv, though.

[plthijinx]

17 is the consentual age? when did this change? i thought it was 18? and i'm with lookout, where the hell were they when i was a student too!?!

[wolf]

Depends on the state.

Unless they've changed things recently, the age of consent in Pennsylvania is 14.

[plthijinx]

Originally Posted by wolf

Depends on the state.

Unless they've changed things recently, the age of consent in Pennsylvania is 14.

that is.......whoa. too young for my book. conversation wouldn't be too hard though..."so. ya got the new Linkin Park album yet?"

[Happy Monkey]

Is that the final age of consent, or is that conditional on a maximum difference in ages? ie 14/15 is OK, but 14/20 is not

[breakingnews]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Is that the final age of consent, or is that conditional on a maximum difference in ages? ie 14/15 is OK, but 14/20 is not

nevermind, i finally got to um, clod's (?) post


Yeah, I thought it was a two-year gap, or something like that.

14-16
16-18
17-19

Not 16-42

There was a rumor that my high-school advisor, who was then about 35 or 36, tagged a senior when he came over to "review his college essays." I'm jealous.

[Undertoad]

They should make it a function, and then kids would learn math.

[SteveDallas]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

They should make it a function, and then kids would learn math.

Or at least the male college students would . . . .

[Trilby]

There really isn't anything sexy about a teenager. They may have perfect, unmarked bodies but as soon as they open their mouths...YUCK. I usually can't even stand talking to people in their twenties. So...freakin'...clueless! I usually just listen to them in astonished amazement.

[lheene]

Originally Posted by Brianna

There really isn't anything sexy about a teenager. They may have perfect, unmarked bodies but as soon as they open their mouths...YUCK. I usually can't even stand talking to people in their twenties. So...freakin'...clueless! I usually just listen to them in astonished amazement.

Actually, I think that while men may be stimulated by this quality of teenage girls or boys, I don't believe the same holds true for women. Women are not as visually stimulated. Maybe the attraction is more psychological than physical. I mean, how many men of age are as capable of being as vulnerable or even as sensitive as these teens? Maybe older women are attracted to the fact that teen boys have less machismo. I dunno, just an opinion.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by lheene

Actually, I think that while men may be stimulated by this quality of teenage girls or boys, I don't believe the same holds true for women. Women are not as visually stimulated. Maybe the attraction is more psychological than physical. I mean, how many men of age are as capable of being as vulnerable or even as sensitive as these teens? Maybe older women are attracted to the fact that teen boys have less machismo. I dunno, just an opinion.

I think you have explained one important advantage of the older woman/young boy attraction. It's true that a teenage boy has very little to offer, but that is the whole point. He does not bring any BAGGAGE into the relationship either. He does not have ex-wives all over the place, children he can't relate to or is having a problem supporting financially, he is not yet bitter or suspicious or as fixed in so many of his own selfish ways. He has not been "ruined" emotionally, as it were, because he knows so little about his or your emotions at that point. In a strange way, this is refreshing.

I'm not thinking about this in terms of a teacher/student affair, I still can't avoid seeing that as predation, which is and should be illegal. But for consenting partners with no ulterior motives, it can be not-necessarily abnormal. It's even been proposed by some philosophers that men and women should have a 3-stage marriage history. The youngest men will be initiated sexually by the older women of the tribe/country/sect; when they get older these men will marry and form a family with a woman their own age, whom they will then initiate and bond with; later, after the children of this union are launched on their own, the women who have been widowed or are single for whatever reason will be "promoted" into the initiation of a new generation of boys. That way, everybody is always in a role which is most suitable and productive for their time of life, their skills and talents. I don't think this plan is going to find favor in many "civilized" societies any time soon, but it does sort of mirror what is happening in these classrooms. As well as after varsity football games, study halls, choir practices, and anyplace else where people consider the possibilities.

Oh, by the way, my ex-husband was 14 years younger than I.

[SteveDallas]

Originally Posted by Tonchi

yet

Originally Posted by Tonchi

later, after the children of this union are launched on their own, the women who have been widowed or are single for whatever reason will be "promoted" into the initiation of a new generation of boys.

"for whatever reason"? Come on, tell us what really happens to the old men in this scenario.

Originally Posted by SteveDallas

"for whatever reason"? Come on, tell us what really happens to the old men in this scenario.

heheheh! You don't want to know! I had the obligatory affair with a man 14 years younger than me. It was interesting - for a while. Can't imagine doing anything with a teenager though. They're just so - well, TEENAGED!