Is it too late to start hating Microsoft/Windows products?

slang · 08-14-2005, 08:45 PM

Just curious.

I've had some recent friction with them lately and NOW that I've finally had enough of the MFers I dont always hear the maoning and sharpening of knives for them as I have in the past.

Is it too late to truly hate these people and Windows?

Happy Monkey · 08-14-2005, 09:59 PM

Never too late!

slang · 08-15-2005, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Never too late!

Great, now even the polar opposite HM has the same opinion as I do!

What next? Radar agre---....oh...never mind.

Perry Winkle · 08-15-2005, 05:32 AM

Linux is very solid for desktop use as long as you're willing to read the manual and a large number of options doesn't bug you. If you have the cash money OS X is very slick -- I can't wait for it to come to x86!

russotto · 08-16-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

Linux is very solid for desktop use as long as you're willing to read the manual and a large number of options doesn't bug you.

And if you don't want to go blind. Freetype just doesn't cut it, even with the evil patent-violating bits turned on. Err, make that the evil-patent violating bits.

Aside from that, KDE still seems a bit klunky. But then again, so is Windows.

tw · 08-16-2005, 07:57 PM

By far, the largest problem I have had with Operating Systems is directly traceable to incompatible hardware. No just individual devices and strange driver problems; also conflicts with IRQs, registry problems that the hardware manufacturer did not properly address or properly remove, etc. IOW, by number, the most common reason for problems are directly traceable to component vendors who did not sufficiently design their product.

I can't say enough about brand name products because these incompatibilities tend to be less common with the (more expensive) brand name products.

Some glaring examples were software that, well, the vendor eventually conceded that their product was not compatible (yet) with that upgraded or new Operation System.

Radar · 08-14-2005, 11:34 PM

It's not their products that's the problem. It's their demand that they be paid for them. Recently, they have made it a huge pain in the ass to update your machine.

I'm upgrading my MCSE to 2003 and when I'm done with it, I'm done with Microsoft. I'll be going for my CCIE (aka the Holy Grail of computer industry certifications)

slang · 08-15-2005, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Recently, they have made it a huge pain in the ass to update your machine.

Yes, this is kinda the problem I'm having. There's no problem at this moment but I had the machine that I bought about 6 months ago die and the OS recovery disk was used to bring it back. I put the product key in from the CD which was made for this specific computer and the online "verification" wouldnt accept it.

After some fuck-around I got everything back running but the program wouldnt run until I called MacroShaft(in the ass)directly (in India) to get some double secret code to enter into the machine.

The big deal is that I only have a cellphone for emergencies with very limited time. As it turned out I had 1 minute of call time left to complete this new "verification".

I dont even want to think about what in this room I would have broken with the fantasy that it was Mr Shafts head, if the time had run out and I couldnt use this machine.

Which just gets me to thinking. Why is it that I have to go through all this horseshit anyway?

Maybe it's time I start looking at some alternatives (so that I dont have a fucking stroke the next time Mr Shaft thinks I might be stealing his unstable and unsecure OS ). It'd be nice to just tell those nice folks on the phone to eat my shee--it next time.

Troubleshooter · 08-15-2005, 07:25 AM

[quote=slang...I put the product key in from the CD which was made for this specific computer and the online "verification" wouldnt accept it.

...[/QUOTE]

This worked this morning when I checked.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h: window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'
AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.

Perry Winkle · 08-15-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

This worked this morning when I checked.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h: window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'
AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.

Doesn't help if you've activated too many times...you HAVE to call them or you Windows will lock you out.

wolf · 08-15-2005, 12:44 PM

Just remember, an Apple iMac will cost a lot more to replace when you boot it down the steps.

SteveDallas · 08-15-2005, 02:02 PM

Is it too late?

Maybe so.

All I can say is, back in the 90s when the geeks were screaming bloody murder about Microsoft, a lot of it was poo-pooed by the business establishment as reactionary whining from crybabies who were jealous of Bill Gates' financial success and superior products. That's not without a grain of truth, but it ignores the fact that there were substantive issues involved too.

Elspode · 08-15-2005, 03:27 PM

Ignoring substantive issues is SOP for gigantic corporations flush with other people's money. Hopefully, such blatant disregard for your customer base is the first step to failure.

slang · 08-16-2005, 02:32 AM

If I'm going to have to re-fuck around every so often with this windows XP (that is totally legal) then I am going to start gearing up with Linux on my backup machine now.

It's not bothersome that MacroShaft is such a big company or that it has such influence or so much money. It's the fact that I have use the god damned phone to reactivate this BS.

Now THAT really fucking pisses me off.

Yes, I know...thank you.

dar512 · 08-16-2005, 09:23 AM

There is an OSS project called Haiku which is working to recreate BeOS. It is getting well along and there is the final (free) release of BeOS to work from in the mean time. It is much more pleasant to use than Linux for a single user, non-server, machine. Worth looking at.

08-14-2005, 08:45 PM	#1
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Is it too late to start hating Microsoft/Windows products? Just curious. I've had some recent friction with them lately and NOW that I've finally had enough of the MFers I dont always hear the maoning and sharpening of knives for them as I have in the past. Is it too late to truly hate these people and Windows?

08-14-2005, 09:59 PM	#2
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Never too late! __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-14-2005, 11:34 PM	#7
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	It's not their products that's the problem. It's their demand that they be paid for them. Recently, they have made it a huge pain in the ass to update your machine. I'm upgrading my MCSE to 2003 and when I'm done with it, I'm done with Microsoft. I'll be going for my CCIE (aka the Holy Grail of computer industry certifications) __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

08-15-2005, 07:25 AM	#9
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	[quote=slang...I put the product key in from the CD which was made for this specific computer and the online "verification" wouldnt accept it. ...[/QUOTE] This worked this morning when I checked. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h: window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all' AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours." Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter: javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all') It turns off the trigger for the key check. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

08-15-2005, 12:44 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Just remember, an Apple iMac will cost a lot more to replace when you boot it down the steps. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-15-2005, 05:32 AM	#4
Perry Winkle Esnohplad Semaj Ton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 2,259	Linux is very solid for desktop use as long as you're willing to read the manual and a large number of options doesn't bug you. If you have the cash money OS X is very slick -- I can't wait for it to come to x86!

08-16-2005, 07:57 PM	#6
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	By far, the largest problem I have had with Operating Systems is directly traceable to incompatible hardware. No just individual devices and strange driver problems; also conflicts with IRQs, registry problems that the hardware manufacturer did not properly address or properly remove, etc. IOW, by number, the most common reason for problems are directly traceable to component vendors who did not sufficiently design their product. I can't say enough about brand name products because these incompatibilities tend to be less common with the (more expensive) brand name products. Some glaring examples were software that, well, the vendor eventually conceded that their product was not compatible (yet) with that upgraded or new Operation System.

08-15-2005, 02:02 PM	#12
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Is it too late? Maybe so. All I can say is, back in the 90s when the geeks were screaming bloody murder about Microsoft, a lot of it was poo-pooed by the business establishment as reactionary whining from crybabies who were jealous of Bill Gates' financial success and superior products. That's not without a grain of truth, but it ignores the fact that there were substantive issues involved too.

08-15-2005, 03:27 PM	#13
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Ignoring substantive issues is SOP for gigantic corporations flush with other people's money. Hopefully, such blatant disregard for your customer base is the first step to failure. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-16-2005, 02:32 AM	#14
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	If I'm going to have to re-fuck around every so often with this windows XP (that is totally legal) then I am going to start gearing up with Linux on my backup machine now. It's not bothersome that MacroShaft is such a big company or that it has such influence or so much money. It's the fact that I have use the god damned phone to reactivate this BS. Now THAT really fucking pisses me off. Yes, I know...thank you.

08-16-2005, 09:23 AM	#15
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	There is an OSS project called Haiku which is working to recreate BeOS. It is getting well along and there is the final (free) release of BeOS to work from in the mean time. It is much more pleasant to use than Linux for a single user, non-server, machine. Worth looking at. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

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