Critical Thinker Habitually Pulls Back the Curtain - Page 3

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-03-2008, 11:49 PM

I'll pose the minor philosophical question: Should he, and to what effect?

regular.joe · 07-04-2008, 01:17 AM

Yes he should. He can make good on all of his critical, self actualized thinking.

coberst · 07-04-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

How do you know what kind of thinker "everyone" is? I mean, think about it--that's crazy.

How does an accomplished tennis player recognize a neophyte tennis player?

coberst · 07-04-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe

Coberst, can you make a statement without referencing another human being? I don't think that you can.

Yes

DanaC · 07-04-2008, 07:01 AM

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How does an accomplished tennis player recognize a neophyte tennis player?

No. That doesn't answer the question at all. An accomplished tennis player may be able to reach conclusions about another individual 'neophyte' tennis player, indeed may even be able to reach conclusions about a group of neophyte players. An accomplished tennis player has no way of reaching a conclusion about all other tennis players without that the conclusion is deeply flawed.

So...you are an accomplished thinker, and we are all mere neophytes are we? May I ask, with the greatest of respect that you go fuck yourself sideways with a broken oar?

DanaC · 07-04-2008, 08:16 AM

On reflection, perhaps that last comment was a tad harsh. I find my hackles raise whenever someone claims to have superior knowledge and/or faculties to the rest of the community based on a fleeting glimpse of who we are and their own evangelism.

regular.joe · 07-04-2008, 11:06 AM

coberst, that was a good start. Lot's of people have said "yes". How do I know you weren't just quoting one of them?

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-05-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

On reflection, perhaps that last comment was a tad harsh. I find my hackles raise whenever someone claims to have superior knowledge and/or faculties to the rest of the community based on a fleeting glimpse of who we are and their own evangelism.

For instance, I make DanaC quite mad at me when I draw from something I've studied and she hasn't. I wouldn't say I'm gentle about it, but still, a wide-reaching grasp of knowledge is a good thing.

DanaC · 07-05-2008, 04:52 AM

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For instance, I make DanaC quite mad at me when I draw from something I've studied and she hasn't.

lol. You keep telling yourself that, honey

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-05-2008, 08:48 PM

Hey, it's the naked truth. Philosophy's a good place in which to undress it.

Flint · 07-05-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by coberst

I agree, everyone is a "trust but verify" thinker.
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Originally Posted by Flint

How do you know what kind of thinker "everyone" is? I mean, think about it--that's crazy.

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Originally Posted by coberst

How does an accomplished tennis player recognize a neophyte tennis player?

Read the question, as stated, with the emphasis on EVERYONE. You aren't qualified to make a statement about everyone.

You are working with a limited data set, on which you have performed limited experimentation; yet you are stating a definitive conclusion. The only arena where your assumption about the cognitive processes of EVERYONE carries any weight, is inside your own mind.

If, as you say, EVERYONE is a *** thinker, then one might conclude that is a hard-wired trait in the human mind. This is if you have used "everyone" in its literal meaning of 100% of all people. However, to go out on a very short, very sturdy limb, I might surmise that your intended meaning was "everyone [except I, coberst]." In which case the plausibility of your statement sinks to new, uncharted depths.

07-04-2008, 01:17 AM	#32
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Yes he should. He can make good on all of his critical, self actualized thinking. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

07-04-2008, 11:06 AM	#37
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	coberst, that was a good start. Lot's of people have said "yes". How do I know you weren't just quoting one of them? __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

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Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Hey, it's the naked truth. Philosophy's a good place in which to undress it. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I'll pose the minor philosophical question: Should he, and to what effect?

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DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	On reflection, perhaps that last comment was a tad harsh. I find my hackles raise whenever someone claims to have superior knowledge and/or faculties to the rest of the community based on a fleeting glimpse of who we are and their own evangelism.

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