What the hell - Page 2

classicman · 11-09-2009, 09:43 AM

Make it a great one!

toranokaze · 11-15-2009, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the support everyone. I'm would say I'm better, but I am functioning.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-15-2009, 11:46 PM

Functioning works, just keep functioning until you get distracted by something pleasurable, then repeat. Hopefully the pleasurables will come closer together until they become a chain, but functioning is the default, and there's no reason for life to get worse than that again. You be cool.

Griff · 11-16-2009, 05:29 AM

The booze was a good start, cut out the Pink Floyd as well, and move it move it. Find a new normal.

spudcon · 11-16-2009, 06:15 AM

What Griff said.

SamIam · 11-16-2009, 08:28 AM

Get yourself a pet if you feel that you can be responsible to it. There's nothing like a kitten or a puppy to make you laugh. An older animal can be a comfort, also. I have fought serious depression all my life, and my alternative to prozac is sitting on my lap as I type these words. My life would definitely be sadder without Miss Flicker Q. Puddy Tat!

Hope that you are feeling better.

Shawnee123 · 11-16-2009, 09:10 AM

Cats don't do much for an imbalance in your brain chemistry. I have two. They make me laugh. They had no effect when I couldn't get out of bed for days, due to real and chronic diagnosed clinical depression.

Cicero · 11-16-2009, 12:34 PM

I am getting tired of this society because of it's willingness to assign symptoms of good mental health as bad ones. I see it on this board all the time. People feel guilty for having emotions now. What is with this new trend? That in itself is the sickness. Crying and venting appropriately is healthy. Please let yourself be humans. Having emotions is not a sickness in itself. Depression can be a normal human condition depending on the length of the depression. Let yourself have a right to your feelings....It's actually empowering and a great sign of a well-rounded human being to have the full range of emotional abilities. I know we want to jump to conclusions and help when people are sad, but being sad in itself is not a sickness. It is great that toran is monitoring it to see if it's lasting, and watching out for signs that it might be enduring. I believe that's responsible and a great way to handle it.

This post is to no one in particular.

Shawnee123 · 11-16-2009, 12:53 PM

Oh I agree, and I don't think the solution to "REAL" depression (not just boo de hoo I feel badly) is "get a kitty." That statement is the equivalent of "get over it."

Yes, tigerwind should monitor, should vent, should decide herself if her symptoms are lasting and need attention.

Discounting and dismissing by saying, in effect, get over it, only adds to a depressive's already mounting feelings of guilt over NOT being able to just get over it. Clinical depression is certainly not the same thing as going through a rough patch, and it's important that people keep that in mind when deciding what action to take. For me, I decided wanting to drive my car off a cliff was not a reasonable level of sadness. The stigma society places on clinical depression, and the inability for some to see the difference between some sadness and depression, is dangerous territory for the individual who is trying to determine if their feelings should be cause for alarm.

Cicero · 11-16-2009, 01:00 PM

I don't believe the suggestion for a pet was a write-off. I think it was honestly intended to help. It isn't my suggestion, but I do think the motives for the suggestion were well-meant. I am more prone to write it off until it sounds serious.

Shawnee123 · 11-16-2009, 01:00 PM

Yeah, I got that much out of it.

classicman · 11-16-2009, 01:19 PM

I think defining "depression" is the issue. Many people think every time they aren't 100% happy or whatever they are depressed. There is a HUGE leap between feeling bad and being clinically depressed. Oh and get a dog instead. Dogs require more work, and take up more of your time. just sayin'

Pico and ME · 11-16-2009, 01:19 PM

Depression sometimes hits when you quit nicotine. The best way to handle that is to eat a balanced diet regularly. Dont let you blood sugar drop.

Cicero · 11-16-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

I think defining "depression" is the issue. Many people think every time they aren't 100% happy or whatever they are depressed.

That is probably the least astute thing I have ever heard you say. But you are forgiven.

TheMercenary · 11-16-2009, 01:24 PM

And then the pharmaceutical industry noticed and marketing began.

11-09-2009, 09:43 AM	#16
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Make it a great one! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-15-2009, 11:26 PM	#17
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	Thanks for the support everyone. I'm would say I'm better, but I am functioning. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

11-15-2009, 11:46 PM	#18
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Functioning works, just keep functioning until you get distracted by something pleasurable, then repeat. Hopefully the pleasurables will come closer together until they become a chain, but functioning is the default, and there's no reason for life to get worse than that again. You be cool. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-16-2009, 05:29 AM	#19
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The booze was a good start, cut out the Pink Floyd as well, and move it move it. Find a new normal. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-16-2009, 06:15 AM	#20
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	What Griff said. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

11-16-2009, 08:28 AM	#21
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Get yourself a pet if you feel that you can be responsible to it. There's nothing like a kitten or a puppy to make you laugh. An older animal can be a comfort, also. I have fought serious depression all my life, and my alternative to prozac is sitting on my lap as I type these words. My life would definitely be sadder without Miss Flicker Q. Puddy Tat! Hope that you are feeling better.

11-16-2009, 09:10 AM	#22
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Cats don't do much for an imbalance in your brain chemistry. I have two. They make me laugh. They had no effect when I couldn't get out of bed for days, due to real and chronic diagnosed clinical depression. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-16-2009, 12:34 PM	#23
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I am getting tired of this society because of it's willingness to assign symptoms of good mental health as bad ones. I see it on this board all the time. People feel guilty for having emotions now. What is with this new trend? That in itself is the sickness. Crying and venting appropriately is healthy. Please let yourself be humans. Having emotions is not a sickness in itself. Depression can be a normal human condition depending on the length of the depression. Let yourself have a right to your feelings....It's actually empowering and a great sign of a well-rounded human being to have the full range of emotional abilities. I know we want to jump to conclusions and help when people are sad, but being sad in itself is not a sickness. It is great that toran is monitoring it to see if it's lasting, and watching out for signs that it might be enduring. I believe that's responsible and a great way to handle it. This post is to no one in particular. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

11-16-2009, 12:53 PM	#24
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Oh I agree, and I don't think the solution to "REAL" depression (not just boo de hoo I feel badly) is "get a kitty." That statement is the equivalent of "get over it." Yes, tigerwind should monitor, should vent, should decide herself if her symptoms are lasting and need attention. Discounting and dismissing by saying, in effect, get over it, only adds to a depressive's already mounting feelings of guilt over NOT being able to just get over it. Clinical depression is certainly not the same thing as going through a rough patch, and it's important that people keep that in mind when deciding what action to take. For me, I decided wanting to drive my car off a cliff was not a reasonable level of sadness. The stigma society places on clinical depression, and the inability for some to see the difference between some sadness and depression, is dangerous territory for the individual who is trying to determine if their feelings should be cause for alarm. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-16-2009, 01:00 PM	#25
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I don't believe the suggestion for a pet was a write-off. I think it was honestly intended to help. It isn't my suggestion, but I do think the motives for the suggestion were well-meant. I am more prone to write it off until it sounds serious. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

11-16-2009, 01:00 PM	#26
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Yeah, I got that much out of it. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-16-2009, 01:19 PM	#27
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I think defining "depression" is the issue. Many people think every time they aren't 100% happy or whatever they are depressed. There is a HUGE leap between feeling bad and being clinically depressed. Oh and get a dog instead. Dogs require more work, and take up more of your time. just sayin' __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-16-2009, 01:19 PM	#28
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Depression sometimes hits when you quit nicotine. The best way to handle that is to eat a balanced diet regularly. Dont let you blood sugar drop.

11-16-2009, 01:24 PM	#30
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	And then the pharmaceutical industry noticed and marketing began. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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