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				Ammo, Lead, and Hunting
			 
			
			
			It's that time of year folks! While searching for cheap ammo I discovered this site  
		
		
		
			http://huntingwithnonlead.org/index.html which is all about hunting without lead. I always assumed that the lead fragments were fairly localized and noticeable. Apparently not. Xrays and CT scans of game meat show a cloud of lead specks several inches beyond the wound and wound channel. A lot of stuff has been written about lead and Condors dying from eating lead in game and fish. We all know that Condors are assholes, just like their friends, the owls. I, however, despite being an asshole myself, don't want to eat any lead. So I started looking into copper solid and lead free ammo. There are some cool rounds out there that have excellent ballistics and weight retention (95%) and consistent expansion of 1.8 - 2 x. Then I found this awesome ammo search engine: http://ammoseek.com/ you enter your variables, caliber, weight, manufacturer, etc. and it displays all the places selling the ammo and the prices, with links to the site's page. Thinking of using either the Remington Copper solid .308 165 or the Federal Vital Shock with the Barnes Triple Shock X, on left. Remington copper solid on right. X Ray shows backstrap riddled with lead fragments. Taget shows three shot group, 2" high @ 100 yds. 
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			Lead kinda defeats that whole eating natural meats thing. I always figured it was an issue but those scans make it look much worse than expected.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Oh Be a Man and eat your LEAD !!!! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Its (not) Good for you !!!!! Seriously thou good thinking , 
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			See, that there is why the cannibals died out. Just take the scalp for your belt, and go to The Lotus Blossom for cat.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			If nothing else, ammoseek is an awesome tool
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I used it to search for .40-65 and .577 Snider. No luck, means I will be reloading for primitive weapons season
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			See what a guy-centric thread this is? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			This is PURE guy stuff. I'll bet   doesn't even hunt.chuh. 
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			With my Snider, I use brass 24 gauge shotgun shells and load with an oversized minie at .590.  80 grains of 2F works well.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 1.25 million women hunters in the US. Get with the program, Trilby! 
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