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dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I'm glad they think I'm nuts. I am nuts.

Ok. Now I've got to go along with LJ. This is a pose.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 11:35 AM

Why would it be? What have I got to lose? All I can be is myself.

lumberjim · 04-13-2006, 11:38 AM

or you could be someone really cool. like a hard ass that shoots from the hip, and gets all the chicks. please. your whole vibe smacks of effort.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:43 AM

Oh, there's lots of possible reasons for taking a pose. I don't know you well enough to speculate.

But I find it hard to believe that anyone prefers for people to think they are crazy.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

All I can be is myself.

BTW this chant is getting old. It's a cop-out. You are who you choose to be.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

You are who you choose to be.

I agree 100% with that. Another example of what I consider to be common sense.

I don't see conflicts or contradictions that y'all are perceiving. That is, because I am me, I know who I am, and I am comfortable with myself. Because I am me, I know how I act, for what reasons, etc. - and logic dictates that I am the final judge on subjective interpretations of my internal motivations, etc. (notwithstanding the fact that you are welcome to make observations of my behavior based on the limited bits of text you have as an indicator of what makes me tick - which I am basically inviting by making threads like this)

The unanswered question is what specifically do you find hard to believe about this? What specifically about this appears to be posturing, IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

lumberjim · 04-13-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

Did you really just ask that?

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Dude, you quoted it, you tell me.

Undertoad · 04-13-2006, 12:16 PM

Either you're lying here, or you're lying in "Every Person Has Value!" where you say

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"every person has value"? that's my schtick. you beat me to it!

and

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What if you step outside your own perspective, and see the world through someone else's eyes, and you realize that they're a complete f**king idiot?

Then you haven't stepped outside your own persepctive. Try again.

Your approach two days ago was that subjectivism requires us to appreciate others' point of view by actually trying to understand their perspective.

Your approach today suggests that you rudely write off entire people you disagree with by violating social convention. It's OK to be a dick to people who don't share your values or sense of style.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:20 PM

That's a very argumentative interpretation. I could do the post-by-post rebuttal thing, but, nah.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

The unanswered question is what specifically do you find hard to believe about this? What specifically about this appears to be posturing, IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

You appear to be fairly rational, at least as much as you can tell on a board. Yet you profess to intentionally use behavior which is counter-productive. Making sure that co-workers think you are crazy will not enhance your career, whatever it may be. Making sure that all your friends are nuts will not result in a useful support network in times of need.

So either you are a poser who wants us to think he's a loose cannon, or you really are the kind of nut who does stuff that sabotages their own life.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:37 PM

@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant.

Undertoad · 04-13-2006, 12:38 PM

No rebuttal needed, it is my answer to your question of what specifically about this appears to be posturing.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant.

Nah. Your meaning is pretty clear.

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Originally Posted by Flint

I'm glad they think I'm nuts. I am nuts. If they are nuts too then we will get along famously. If not, well, maybe both of us could find somebody better to talk to.

Not too many ways to read that.

Most folks here say what's on their mind and leave it at that. You may not agree with them or like them, but at least you know where you stand. Since you ask, my best guess at this point is that you like to play mind games.

MaggieL · 04-13-2006, 01:05 PM

Surely someone who claims never to be posturing is striking the "I never posture, dig how authentic I am" pose. :-)

04-13-2006, 11:35 AM	#17
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Why would it be? What have I got to lose? All I can be is myself. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 11:38 AM	#18
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	or you could be someone really cool. like a hard ass that shoots from the hip, and gets all the chicks. please. your whole vibe smacks of effort. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-13-2006, 11:43 AM	#19
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Oh, there's lots of possible reasons for taking a pose. I don't know you well enough to speculate. But I find it hard to believe that anyone prefers for people to think they are crazy. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

04-13-2006, 12:09 PM	#23
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Dude, you quoted it, you tell me. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 12:20 PM	#25
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	That's a very argumentative interpretation. I could do the post-by-post rebuttal thing, but, nah. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 12:37 PM	#27
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 12:38 PM	#28
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No rebuttal needed, it is my answer to your question of what specifically about this appears to be posturing.

04-13-2006, 01:05 PM	#30
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Surely someone who claims never to be posturing is striking the "I never posture, dig how authentic I am" pose. :-) __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

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