8/12/2003: Talented digital airbrushing - Page 4

juju · 08-13-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by dave
I responded the way I did because I felt her comments were rude and incorrect.

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Her response was basically "you are wrong". Which I'm not, because I've done everything I claim to be possible.

You should get what you give.

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But then something like this happens, where it's my contention that someone needs a lesson in manners. Not only is she sorely mistaken about the state of graphics editing applications, but she doesn't even present this opinion in a civilized manner. At that point, when she is basically calling me ignorant and/or a liar, I feel absolutely no need to remain civil.

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That's the POINT. Whether or not you intended it, your comments came off to me as insulting and essentially calling me a liar and/or ignorant of what we are talking. As I explained in my post to juju, that type of behavior will simply get the same type back.

So, are you saying that you feel it's extremely rude and offensive for someone who doesn't know you to tell you that you're wrong? And you feel like your response was of equal rudeness to hers?

Like I said, I'm not challenging in any way, I just am genuinly curious as to the answers.

bmgb · 08-13-2003, 09:09 PM

Here's my quick and dirty attempt. (Photoshop <2 mins.) I made her look pretty fake. It would take a lot of time to rid her of blemishes while still retaining the little subtleties that make her look "real."

Annebonannie · 08-13-2003, 09:33 PM

I love your quote, bmgb!

What steps did you use on your image?

xoxoxoBruce · 08-13-2003, 10:09 PM

I'd hit it.

juju · 08-13-2003, 10:19 PM

Yeah, but what do you think her price point is?

bmgb · 08-13-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Annebonannie
I love your quote, bmgb!

What steps did you use on your image?

The quote is an old favorite of mine.

I used the "smart blur" on the photo a couple times. Then I took the blur tool and blurred out the very few little pitted areas that were left.

Annebonannie · 08-13-2003, 10:39 PM

I guessed wrong. I was thinking that you had used gaussian blur then unsharp mask.

08-13-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by dave
When my Power Mac starts booting, I will. (I believe the hard drive died Saturday and I have been too busy to look at it.)

That'd be the motherboard, Bob. They estimate 2 weeks repair. So hold your horses.

08-13-2003, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
So, are you saying that you feel it's extremely rude and offensive for someone who doesn't know you to tell you that you're wrong? And you feel like your response was of equal rudeness to hers?

I've been over this. I intentionally used qualifiers to clarify what I meant. She implied I was lying and/or ignorant of photo manipulation without bothering to ask what my qualifications were (or whether or not iPhoto could actually do that). It is typical of a "better than you" attitude that is prevalent online. When I see it, and I am capable of acting in the same manner, I do.

My response was undoubtedly more rude than hers. This is called <b>escalation</b>. My first two posts on the thread weren't rude at all; then she escalated, and I further escalated. It's kinda like, when you're standing there, minding your business, and some asshole punches you in the face. So you punch them back, even harder, hoping to get them thinking "Hey, being an asshole to this asshole isn't really worth my time."

juju · 08-14-2003, 12:16 AM

I see. So you're being mean in order to convince people to be nice to you.

This may sound like an odd comment, but I really do find that to be a fascinating interpersonal strategy. And I don't mean that sarcastically at all.

hairdog · 08-14-2003, 07:00 AM

Why can't we all just get along?

Annebonannie · 08-14-2003, 07:11 AM

Too bad about your motherboard dave, convenient for you too.

08-14-2003, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Annebonannie
Too bad about your motherboard dave, convenient for you too.

Pretty inconvenient, actually, since I do just about everything on that machine. It started acting up on Friday and totally went out on Sunday. (And I even have two eye-witnesses!)

Tobiasly · 08-14-2003, 09:12 AM

Annie, I'm sure you can do much better without the 20 second constraint, but you made that chick look like Michael Jackson!

And this retouching guy may be a digital photo whiz, but a web designer he ain't. Good God, I can't possibly think of a more annoying background image than that on his homepage.

And animated backgrounds are just plain evil, folks.

Annebonannie · 08-14-2003, 09:26 AM

OMG! You're right!

I'm used to working in newsprint and compensating for a minimum of 25% press gain, but still it's no excuse for making the poor woman look like the "King of Plop"

(I also thought she ended up a little like Delta Burke, personally, but "overdoing" things is one of my weaknesses.)

08-13-2003, 09:09 PM	#47
bmgb Master of the Domain Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MN Posts: 231	Here's my quick and dirty attempt. (Photoshop <2 mins.) I made her look pretty fake. It would take a lot of time to rid her of blemishes while still retaining the little subtleties that make her look "real." Attached Images __________________ That gun will replace your tongue. You will learn to speak through it. And your poetry will be written in blood. - Nobody

08-13-2003, 09:33 PM	#48
Annebonannie Paramour of Paradigm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 41	I love your quote, bmgb! What steps did you use on your image? __________________ "I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty" -John Waters

08-13-2003, 10:09 PM	#49
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'd hit it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-13-2003, 10:39 PM	#52
Annebonannie Paramour of Paradigm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 41	I guessed wrong. I was thinking that you had used gaussian blur then unsharp mask. __________________ "I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty" -John Waters

08-14-2003, 07:11 AM	#57
Annebonannie Paramour of Paradigm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 41	Too bad about your motherboard dave, convenient for you too. __________________ "I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty" -John Waters

08-13-2003, 10:19 PM	#50
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Yeah, but what do you think her price point is?

08-14-2003, 12:16 AM	#55
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	I see. So you're being mean in order to convince people to be nice to you. This may sound like an odd comment, but I really do find that to be a fascinating interpersonal strategy. And I don't mean that sarcastically at all.

08-14-2003, 07:00 AM	#56
hairdog Simulated Simulacrum Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 39	Why can't we all just get along?

08-14-2003, 09:12 AM	#59
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Annie, I'm sure you can do much better without the 20 second constraint, but you made that chick look like Michael Jackson! And this retouching guy may be a digital photo whiz, but a web designer he ain't. Good God, I can't possibly think of a more annoying background image than that on his homepage. And animated backgrounds are just plain evil, folks.

08-14-2003, 09:26 AM	#60
Annebonannie Paramour of Paradigm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 41	OMG! You're right! I'm used to working in newsprint and compensating for a minimum of 25% press gain, but still it's no excuse for making the poor woman look like the "King of Plop" (I also thought she ended up a little like Delta Burke, personally, but "overdoing" things is one of my weaknesses.) __________________ "I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty" -John Waters

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