The Bible Is Bullshit

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by Cicero

I have to live with every bad thing I have ever done. I can't give it to something that does not exist. I have to fess to it, to myself. Then make the changes that need to be made. My sins are my sins and I did not approve a god to kill theirselves for my sins. Don't kill yourself or be killed for any sin of mine. You do not have my approval. They are mine. Kthnx. I haven't done anything that bad anyway. No one needs more gruesome death to be forgiven. That is faulty thinking. I am capable of saving myself. I am capable of living with my own sins. I am capable of forgiving myself. No one needs to do that for me. It's for me to do. If I have hurt someone it is up to me to make amends, and god isn't going to do it for me.

So what you're saying is, Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not yours?

[Cicero]

Nah. I'm doubting the whole thing. I don't even usually use the word sin.

Maybe jesus did die for sins, dunno, but there is also no proof that it actually worked. Bad methodology.

[Ibby]

Psst, it was a Patti Smith reference.

[Cicero]

Oh jeez. Sorry. I always screw up on the Patti Smith references.

[DanaC]

Sundae. You are beautiful. Do you think you aren't bonny because you aren't slim like you used to be? That's total bollocks. That's like saying weight=ugly. You were a bonny lass when you were skinny and you are a bonny lass now you are not. Remember I walked through Leicester and Greenwich with you, and sat in pubs and restaurants. Men look at you. You have a beautiful face, intelligent eyes that hint at spice and sex, and you carry yourself with grace and poise. You can carry off the diva/vamp look better than anyone else I know. And you have a smile that can light up a room, or intrigue like the Mona Lisa.

The reason you may not be connecting with guys has nothing to do with the way you look, it might be to do with what messages you are giving out. That's my guess anyway. Maybe some part of you doesn't actually feel ready to let down your guard and you are subconsciously putting up the Not Available sign.

[Sundae]

Thanks darlin' - you are a very kind person.
Probably my problems are all in my head. But it's the only one I got!

I've been watching too much TV since I moved here I think.
It just seems that everything I watch has a love story. Even action films. Even children's TV.
And it's all love at first sight, and men laying down their lives for a woman they don't know yet, and professing undying love within minutes of meeting. So it's all about love based on appearance. And I'm unhappy with mine. So I get all melodramatic and let it out here.

Different next year. Promise.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Thanks darlin' - you are a very kind person.
Probably my problems are all in my head. But it's the only one I got!

I've been watching too much TV since I moved here I think.
It just seems that everything I watch has a love story. Even action films. Even children's TV.
And it's all love at first sight, and men laying down their lives for a woman they don't know yet, and professing undying love within minutes of meeting. So it's all about love based on appearance. And I'm unhappy with mine. So I get all melodramatic and let it out here.

Different next year. Promise.

What Dana said. And, sweetheart, you just need to get yourself a man full of either #1) profundities, or #2) shite, and bonk his brains out. Best. Relationship. Ever. Promise!

[God]

I'm having a "holiday" sale on automatic weapons if anyone here is interested.

Bargains galore.

No need for bureaucratic paperwork or the like, I'll just "miracle" the goods to you.

[Cicero]

Sounds too pricey.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by God

I'm having a "holiday" sale on automatic weapons if anyone here is interested.

Bargains galore.

No need for bureaucratic paperwork or the like, I'll just "miracle" the goods to you.

*Wrings hands maniacally* Bwaahaaaaahaaa I can finally carry out my "extreme distaste" crimes. Bwaaaahaaahaaaaa

[wolf]

Originally Posted by God

I'm having a "holiday" sale on automatic weapons if anyone here is interested.

Bargains galore.

No need for bureaucratic paperwork or the like, I'll just "miracle" the goods to you.

You know what I like.

[slang]

Keep an eye on the helipad Wolf.

[OnyxCougar]

Ah, what is the Cellar without the religion thread?

There is nothing...and I mean nothing like getting an idea in your head, mulling it over for weeks, deciding whether or not to incorporate it into your system of thought and belief, and finally emerging to the world with what you think is a solid, well thought out way of being...and expressing yourself here to be picked apart, insulted, belittled, and generally trashed.

No, nothing in this whole world like it.

And I wouldn't want it any other way.

The trial by fire will either strengthen your beliefs or destroy them, but you will not leave here (or stay here) unchanged.

And that is why I love the Cellar.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

One guy tried to explain to me that the whole universe was made of water and some of it compressed and formed solid matter but not all, so when the Biblical Flood happened, that was excess water from the universe falling onto the earth..

This sounds like a poorly explained version of the Canopy Theory.

the whole approach of creation science kills me. They start with a conclusion and then seek a hypothesis and "experimentation" to support the conclusion, which is not exactly how the scientific method works last I checked.

Well, Creationists (of which I am one) ask the same question that the Evolutionists do, which is: how did all this get here?

The Evolutionists say that a point of nothingness exploded and out of this explosion came all matter and energy in the whole universe which eventually coagulated and became solar systems and planets. One of these somehow formed just the right mix of amino acids and protiens and through some literally unestimable random chance, life just happened, and then more stuff happened, and the life got more complex and then more complex until finally, there were people. Time is the hero of the story.

But they can't prove it.

The Creationists say that a being beyond our true comprehension created time, the universe and everything in it as part of a Grand Design, creating the solar system and planets and earth and water and plants and animals and people all as distinct types. God is the hero of the story.

But we can't prove that either.

Oh, both sides will come up with "evidence" to support their theories, but the result is this: We can't duplicate it. We can't observe what happened at the beginning. We can only take what we see now and the processes we see occuring now and try to extrapolate that back (which isn't accurate either, because things NEVER stay the same).

So the CvE question will remain a debate that depends on your other worldviews.

However, I will say this: If a person professes to be a Christian, then they CANNOT believe that Evolution is true, because it is 180 degrees of the Bible. As with many other things, there are times when you have to pick one side or the other. This is one issue that you can't believe in both.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

This sounds like a poorly explained version of the Canopy Theory.



Well, Creationists (of which I am one) ask the same question that the Evolutionists do, which is: how did all this get here?

The Evolutionists say that a point of nothingness exploded and out of this explosion came all matter and energy in the whole universe which eventually coagulated and became solar systems and planets.
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Some evolutionists clearly take that stance, but that's not evolutionary theory.