Cash for Clunkers Program - Page 2

slang · 07-21-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

So my last car, an '82 Buick Century, isn't eligible.

That looks just like mine Glatt. And mine is a 92'

glatt · 07-22-2009, 08:08 AM

yeah, you're right. I did a Google image search and came up with that picture. I didn't have a picture of mine handy. I don't think the picture is an '82. The lights look different, and mine had a padded vinyl top.

This is an '82 and is much closer to the way mine looked. Good comfortable car for road trips, but that's about it. A POS otherwise.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

paraphrasing:
'i didn't read the link, but i DID want to misquote some information'

(mean comment deleted before posting)

AS I SAID, I was quoting WHAT I HEARD while watching the bill go through committee. THEN I WENT ON TO SAY... Dianne Feinstein and Olympia Snow were working on a much better bill. I hope some of their ideas got incorporated into this one before it passed the full Congress.Geez.

lumberjim · 07-23-2009, 05:13 PM

i was just pointing out that you're stupid.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

i was just pointing out that you're stupid.

Do you enjoy being an asshole or is it just a gift?

lumberjim · 07-23-2009, 05:44 PM

sometimes it's both.

understand my perspective. I put up a thread because I'm in the car business, and thought people might want to find out about this program. I offered to answer questions.

Why did you find it necessary to post your incorrect opinion as though it were fact even though i had linked the actual information and offered to clarify any questions?

didn't have enough time to read the link.....you were in a rush? and yet you had time to post incorrect information, and the judgement that this is a bad program.

you're like a stupid version of Aliantha. jesus.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 05:49 PM

This is a chart I remember seeing as well. In fact, I think I posted it somewhere, although it may have been on another site.

Cash For Clunkers – Car Allowance Rebate System Overview
Summary of Car Allowance Rebate System - Cash for Clunkers Voucher Qualifications
Min. Fuel Economy for New Vehicle $3,500 Voucher $4,500 Voucher

Passenger Car 22 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 4 mpg - $3,500 Voucher Mileage improvement of at least 10 mpg - $4,500

Light-Duty Truck ** 18 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $3,500 Voucher Mileage improvement of at least 5 mpg - $4,500

Large Light-Duty Trucks *** 15 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 1 mpg - $3,500 Voucher or trade-in of a work truck Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $4,500

Commercial trucks ****
Trade-in must be at least pre-2002

http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/

I believe that is what I said?

Pico and ME · 07-23-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

yeah, you're right. I did a Google image search and came up with that picture. I didn't have a picture of mine handy. I don't think the picture is an '82. The lights look different, and mine had a padded vinyl top.

This is an '82 and is much closer to the way mine looked. Good comfortable car for road trips, but that's about it. A POS otherwise.

Glatt, whats the deal with that picture? It looks like it could be out of a Cohen brothers movie...:p

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

sometimes it's both.

understand my perspective. I put up a thread because I'm in the car business, and thought people might want to find out about this program. I offered to answer questions.

Why did you find it necessary to post your incorrect opinion as though it were fact even though i had linked the actual information and offered to clarify any questions?

didn't have enough time to read the link.....you were in a rush? and yet you had time to post incorrect information, and the judgement that this is a bad program.

you're like a stupid version of Aliantha. jesus.

According to the chart I just posted, I wasn't wrong AT ALL in the requirments I posted. Even according to the link you provided, I wasn't wrong. And I specifically said I had not read the link YET because I was in a hurry (I have now read the link), and that I was going by what I had I seen in committee.

I am happy you were posting something to help people who might be in the market for a new car. Good for you. I STILL think the bill Feinstein and Snow were working on would have better because it would have benefited more people. Not everyone can afford a new car right now, but many people who can't might could afford a used one. Why is it taboo to say so?

Shawnee123 · 07-23-2009, 06:04 PM

Fargo!

Tan Ciera! Tan Ciera!

lumberjim · 07-23-2009, 06:05 PM

THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I didn't go to the link yet to read it because I'm in a rush, but I watched the session in Congress on CSPAN when they first passed it in committee, and it is a bad bill. First of all, you have to buy a new car, you can't get a used one. Second, if you're getting rid of a gas guzzling SUV, you only have to buy a new one that gets ONE MORE MPG, and if it's a car, FOUR MORE MPG. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

An SUV is like JEEP.....a Class 2 Truck is like an F350

most people here don't drive heavy pickups

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(3) the term `category 2 truck' means a large van or a large
pickup, as categorized by the Secretary using the method used
by the Environmental Protection Agency and described in the
report entitled `Light-Duty Automotive Technology and Fuel
Economy Trends: 1975 through 2008';

you do this repeatedly. i've told you about it before. you form an opinion in a blink and then immediately begin to spout it as fact. I don't want you to do that in this thread if you wouldn't mind.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Fargo!

Tan Ciera! Tan Ciera!

bwahahahahahaa

Aliantha · 07-23-2009, 06:14 PM

Looks like lumberjim has found himself a new whipping boy(girl).

Lucky you sugarpop.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID:

I didn't go to the link yet to read it because I'm in a rush, but I watched the session in Congress on CSPAN when they first passed it in committee, and it is a bad bill. First of all, you have to buy a new car, you can't get a used one. Second, if you're getting rid of a gas guzzling SUV, you only have to buy a new one that gets ONE MORE MPG, and if it's a car, FOUR MORE MPG.

you do this repeatedly. i've told you about it before. you form an opinion in a blink and then immediately begin to spout it as fact. I don't want you to do that in this thread if you wouldn't mind.

This is the last thing I will post about this. This is from the FAQs page from the link you posted:
If both the new vehicle and the traded-in vehicle are category 2 trucks and the combined fuel economy value of the new vehicle is at least 1, but less than 2, miles per gallon higher than the combined fuel economy value of the traded in vehicle, the credit is $3,500. If both the new vehicle and the traded-in vehicle are category 2 trucks and the combined fuel economy of the new vehicle is at least 2 miles per gallon higher than that of the traded-in vehicle, the credit is $4,500.

The value of the credit for the purchase or lease of a new passenger car depends upon the difference between the combined fuel economy of the vehicle that is traded in and that of the new vehicle that is purchased or leased. If the new vehicle has a combined fuel economy that is at least 4, but less than 10, miles per gallon higher than the traded-in vehicle, the credit is $3,500. If the new vehicle has a combined fuel economy value that is at least 10 miles per gallon higher than the traded-in vehicle, the credit is $4,500.

sugarpop · 07-23-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Looks like lumberjim has found himself a new whipping boy(girl).

Lucky you sugarpop.

yea. Lucky me.

07-22-2009, 08:08 AM	#17
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	yeah, you're right. I did a Google image search and came up with that picture. I didn't have a picture of mine handy. I don't think the picture is an '82. The lights look different, and mine had a padded vinyl top. This is an '82 and is much closer to the way mine looked. Good comfortable car for road trips, but that's about it. A POS otherwise. Attached Images

07-23-2009, 05:13 PM	#19
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i was just pointing out that you're stupid. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

07-23-2009, 05:44 PM	#21
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	sometimes it's both. understand my perspective. I put up a thread because I'm in the car business, and thought people might want to find out about this program. I offered to answer questions. Why did you find it necessary to post your incorrect opinion as though it were fact even though i had linked the actual information and offered to clarify any questions? didn't have enough time to read the link.....you were in a rush? and yet you had time to post incorrect information, and the judgement that this is a bad program. you're like a stupid version of Aliantha. jesus. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

07-23-2009, 06:04 PM	#25
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Fargo! Tan Ciera! Tan Ciera! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-23-2009, 06:14 PM	#28
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Looks like lumberjim has found himself a new whipping boy(girl). Lucky you sugarpop. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

07-23-2009, 05:49 PM	#22
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	This is a chart I remember seeing as well. In fact, I think I posted it somewhere, although it may have been on another site. Cash For Clunkers – Car Allowance Rebate System Overview Summary of Car Allowance Rebate System - Cash for Clunkers Voucher Qualifications Min. Fuel Economy for New Vehicle $3,500 Voucher $4,500 Voucher Passenger Car 22 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 4 mpg - $3,500 Voucher Mileage improvement of at least 10 mpg - $4,500 Light-Duty Truck ** 18 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $3,500 Voucher Mileage improvement of at least 5 mpg - $4,500 Large Light-Duty Trucks *** 15 mpg * Mileage improvement of at least 1 mpg - $3,500 Voucher or trade-in of a work truck Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $4,500 Commercial trucks **** Trade-in must be at least pre-2002 http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/ I believe that is what I said?

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