Red Mapping - Page 2

tw · 10-10-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Jesus ƒuck, you mean these politicians you speak of actually try to get elected, and furthermore have groups called "parties" that devise ways of scheming for enough votes to make this happen?

There are parties that first work for the nation; second for the party. Then are parties that work 100% for the party to a destruction of all others. You do see a difference between the Nazi party and other political parties? Some are part of a healthy political process. One is only about themselves as the expense of all others.

tw · 10-10-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I wonder when they will run out of food and a place to take a dump?

Again the continuing process of hate for the American worker. They must be wrong because Cantor and Limbaugh's brainwashed disciples are told it must be so.

Clearly TheMercenary considers them a mob because their living standards are dropping every year. And because that could not happen due to tax cuts for the rich, voodoo economics, and "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".

At what point do you apologize for so much evil created by wacko extremism? At what point do you admit American workers have finally had enough?

SamIam · 10-10-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I wonder when they will run out of food and a place to take a dump? I am sure those businesses in Wall Street aren't letting them in the door.

I have been following Occupy Denver and Porta Potties have been set up in the down town area. Supporters are dropping off food and other supplies as well as mailing them in. If a provincial place like Denver can deal with these logistics, I'm sure New York can.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Agreed. Which ever party is in power uses the Gerrymander to construct voting blocks that will support their parties future power prospects. It is not just the Republickins. In the last election the people spoke and through out a whole bunch of Demoncrats, no big deal, that is how the elections are suppose to work. If they vote the Dems out of the Senate in the next election, that is how it works.

The example of NC is one example. No different than the attempted influence of outside money in Wisconsin from the Unions or other attempts by Union money to influence votes. They have a long history of influencing and buying votes in many cities and states. George Soros is the equivalent of this guy Pope and the Koch brothers, and Soros has been around a lot longer. Now that rich conservatives have entered the game in the same way it is suppose to be a new and exciting expose. It's not.

Agreed that outside money has always been used in an attempt to influence the political process. The thing that is different now is that the Supreme Court has ruled that corps can LEGALLY pour in far greater sums of money than previously due to their new status as "persons." The results of this ruling ARE new.

BTW, that's "threw" not "through." I am not normally a spelling Nazi, but I couldn't understand what you were saying until I re-read the sentence twice.

Flint · 10-10-2011, 02:38 PM

This "red mapping" sounds evil. I hate things that have an ominous title like that. I'd really go over the edge if someone had a phrase to describe this, that rhymes. Things that rhyme are always totally true. But in this case, that icky feeling I get from the phrase "red mapping" is all I need.

jimhelm · 10-10-2011, 02:54 PM

I didn't read the thread, because it smacks of politics.

There is something called Red Lining in lending..... where if you live in a bad neighborhood, the buyers look harder at the deal. It's technically illegal... like racial profiling... but I think it happens if it's a local bank sometimes.

Like... an applicant in Camden, might be less likely to get approved than one in Merchantville if it's a close thing.

TheMercenary · 10-10-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

I have been following Occupy Denver and Porta Potties have been set up in the down town area.

Who is paying for them? If it is tax payer funds they should be removed immediately.

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Supporters are dropping off food and other supplies as well as mailing them in.

I have no problem with that.

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Agreed that outside money has always been used in an attempt to influence the political process. The thing that is different now is that the Supreme Court has ruled that corps can LEGALLY pour in far greater sums of money than previously due to their new status as "persons." The results of this ruling ARE new.

The law is the law. If you want it changed get together a bunch of people and vote out the people you don't like in the next election. But if the last election is any measure I think you are in for harder times of making such changes in the next one...

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BTW, that's "threw" not "through." I am not normally a spelling Nazi, but I couldn't understand what you were saying until I re-read the sentence twice.

In the greater scheme of things unimportant to me, could care less. Carry on...

classicman · 10-10-2011, 03:37 PM

Are cars in Camden more likely to be vandalized/damages/stolen than in Merchantville?

TheMercenary · 10-10-2011, 03:38 PM

Absolutely not! I bet their insurance is much lower as well.

jimhelm · 10-10-2011, 03:43 PM

YES.

... I bet car insurance costs more there

Lamplighter · 10-10-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm

I didn't read the thread, because it smacks of politics.

There is something called Red Lining in lending..... where if you live in a bad neighborhood, the buyers look harder at the deal. It's technically illegal... like racial profiling... but I think it happens if it's a local bank sometimes.

Like... an applicant in Camden, might be less likely to get approved than one in Merchantville if it's a close thing.

The "red lining" was something the banks and realtors did, secretly.
They drew lines around certain neighborhoods.
The banks would not issue mortages and the realtors would not show houses inside the red-lined areas.
HUD laws made such practices illegal.

classicman · 10-10-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm

YES.

... I bet car insurance costs more there

Hmm... I was thinking that they were protecting theirs ASSet. I ASSume thats covered in the insurance end.

Do more people in Camden default? Could that be it?

TheMercenary · 10-10-2011, 03:54 PM

And now the gobberment is talking about taking more of our tax dollars and bailing out the people who made bad decisions about their buying up to the next biggest house on our dime.

SamIam · 10-10-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Who is paying for them? If it is tax payer funds they should be removed immediately. [Porta Potties]

Yeah, it's OK for tax payers to pay for golden parachutes for CEO's, OK for tax payers to pay billions if not trillions to cover the losses from corporate greed and outright fraud and theft by financial institutions. But if an ordinary citizen has to take a crap? God forbid that the tax payer spends so much as a dime on maintaining civic cleanliness and to protect the public health. I don't know where your priorities come from, but the term "reducto ad absurbiam" must have been coined especially for you.

If I make it up to Denver to take part in any of the protests there. I'll be sure to lay a turd in the nearest legislative punch bowl, just for you.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-10-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

The protesters on Wall Street and in various American cities are indeed called a "mob" and even accused of attempting to push the country into civil war. They are also accused of being "anti-capitalism," "anti-free market," and, of course, engaging in "class warfare." Guillotines, anyone?

So far the only people mentioning guillotines with intent, Sam, are Rosie O'Donnell -- and you.

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Originally Posted by SamIam

The far right does not want to have the status quo questioned - especially now that the supreme court has made it so easy for corps to buy state legislatures and members of congress. The elephant in the living room that the right refuses to discuss is the fate of our country. They would have us believe that tea party ideology is more important than jobs for our people, education for our children, medical care for ALL our citizens, and programs which help the elderly and the disabled to live with some human dignity.

Taken to its extreme, right wing ideology will turn the US into a 3rd world country with all power in the hands of a small, extremely wealthy elite backed by a powerful military (you will notice that the right wishes the military alone to remain unscathed by any budget cuts). It is disheartening, to say the least.

(Capitalization as original.)

Considering your ideas are one-eighty off from the actual situation -- you've got your right wing mixed up with your left under the impression you are anti-fascist or something -- I'd say you deserve some disheartening. You are still bitterly hostile to about every worthwhile thought ever thought, wildly and incontinently slurping up socialist ideas in their stead, as seen above. Fortunately for me, my mentality does not suck nearly so much as yours does -- kid, you really plan ahead and make an effort. In that vein, you might set up to move to, oh, Québec in late 2012, now that the electorate has seen the face of Socialism, and is going to put the boot to it the next general election.

A Little Soft, Mr. President?

Aimless Obama walks alone

P.S.: Sam, speaking of "especially for you," it's absurdam. Your willingness to try teaching your grandmother to suck eggs is surely charitable, but it does leave you on the same playing field with Gollum. UG.

SamIam · 10-11-2011, 12:42 AM

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