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Old 07-07-2004, 05:40 PM   #11
Radar
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The woman was not trespassing at any point and couldn't have been charged with it. She bought a ticket to the movies, (actually 2 tickets) and attended with some friends who also bought some. This was her pass to get onto the property. Assuming that there were no signs up saying that you can't hand out government forms, she had no idea of knowing this would bother anyone and in fact it did not bother anyone other than the manager. Note: The manager is not the owner of the property.

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The simple and undeniable truth is that she violated the rights of the property owner. Clearly you lack the necessary grasp of the obvious to realize this. She undermined the very foundation of Libertarianism, and you-- an outspoken Libertarian-- are defending her. You could cut the irony with a knife.
Wrong, the simple and undeniable truth is that she did not violate anyone's rights including the theater owner. She was exercising her right to free speech and the manager of the theater either asked her to leave or to stop handing out the forms. She believed she was within her rights to hand them out (and she is if PA state law protects political speech as it does in CA) in the theater. She discussed it with the manager while she continued handing it out. This is also not trespassing. She was trying to convince him to be reasonable and let her finish. The manager presumably told her he would call the police to have her removed. By this time she had finished and left the theater unescorted and was to her car. So she complied with the wishes of the Theater manager (not the theater owner) and left of her own accord as requested. Still not trespassing and still not causing a disturbance. The only disturbance was created by the theater manager. Then when she was near her car, she was called back to the theater by police.

At no point were anyone's property rights violated, and anyone who claims they were is either lacks the brain cells or the honesty to comprehend it. There is no irony, and no inconsistancy in what I'm saying. She exercised her rights and didn't violate anyone else's rights. That is as libertarian as you can get.

The cops were not doing thier job and were not upholding the law. They were called about a disturbance and clearly there was none. The person who was accused of creating a disturbance by the person who actually created it (the theater manager) was on their way to her car and wasn't disturbing anyone. They then called her back and argued with her and when she stood up for her rights and didn't bow down to thier supreme almighty authority as a cop, they got pissed and cuffed her.
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