Getting Ugly in Russia

[jaguar]

there is black and white in the world Jaguar. specifically targeting innocent women and children is wrong. end of story. no matter how sympathetic to a cause you may be you have to admit that.

Thankyou for illustrating, perfectly, my point. Both in moral absolutism and situational ignorance for that matter.

Are things really that straightforward for you? When do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? When total war is waged on you at what point are you obliged or forced to wage total war in return?

It's interesting, in the same breath, you seem to suggest that actions such as

"Aset Asimova" (not the woman's real name), a 43-year-old widow, told Human Rights Watch that she was at home with her eight-year-old son when drunken soldiers came in early February. Three of them took her into a separate room while others looted the house. "They tore my dress. They asked me where the men were, they asked me how long I had been without a husband." The soldiers then told her to undress, and when she fought them off they beat her with the butts of their rifles, and raped her. "I don't know how many of them raped me. I lost consciousness, when it was happening. When I came to, they were pouring water on me … then they left."

are just routine efforts to keep the provinces under control and justifiable.

Maybe if

The forensic examiner concluded that Kungaeva was beaten, anally and vaginally penetrated by a hard object, and strangled at about 3:00 a.m.4 The report cited marks on her neck, the condition of her blood vessels, the tone of her skin, and the condition of her lungs. It found that other injuries such as bruising found on her face, her neck, her right eye, and her left breast were inflicted by a blow with a "blunt, hard object of limited surface,"

had happened to your sister, then your mother, you might start feeling differently about the wall of indifference eminating from moscow and the innocence of those who did nothing to stop or supported these actions in their name.

I'm not trying to justify this, I'm simply trying to give you a modicum of understanding of what is going on beyond simplistic moralisms for middle class americans.