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Originally Posted by Dagney

1. Did TW not see that US troops were on the ground the day after the disaster doing what they could? ... Yes, our big battle groups may not have been there until later, but we were there helping, right away.
2. Does TW not realize that merely having a US military presence on the ground, daily costs an average of $10Mil US? (Gee, let's calculate, 7 Days, * 10 Mil = roughly 70 Million dollars...on top of the pleged 35 mil at first, that was then Increased to 350 Mil, that was then given pretty much a bottomless bucket, with Powell saying we'll give what they need...no matter what)
3. Has TW dug cash out of his pocket and offered it up to assist...or does he just take pot shots from the comfort of his easy chair?
4. You may not agree with Bush and his politics, hell, you may not even like him as a person, you may be holding on to a lot of bitter rage after the 'grand disappointment' in November, but damn man, 150K people died, and no, it was NOT President Bush's fault, so why don't you take a pill and stop trying to blame someone for an 'act of God'.

Correct. With thousands of troops but days away, instead we sent a paltry 6 C-130s and some recon planes. Since numbers are calculated to three significant digits, then 100 troops is the equivalent of zero. This in a region that contained thousands of Americans waiting - stifled - five days to help. The Marines that could have been there on day 7, instead, arrived on day 14. They too were delayed one week by a president who took five days to be humiliated into the truth.

Needed on day one was food, medicine, tools, and other aid that America could have been delivering that day. No one knows how many 10,000s died because aid never arrived. No one could have matched America's ability to save tens of thousands - if only the president permitted Americans to help. Instead George Jr stalled for a week. When both information and aid were most needed, then he who had full information and thousands of troops in the region, instead, sat on his righteous ass.

He never even told our allies how dire the situation was. They, with less information, had to mock America before George Jr would admit the obvious. George Jr just sat there until Thursday - after the world rightly humiliated us. We who had more in the region to send when it was needed most, instead, just sat on our ass. In the meantime, tens of thousands more died.

The first American response was costing about $6 million per day. So what? Why do you misrepresent the American contribution? The fact that George Jr only offered $15million says he would not offer help. The money demonstrates George Jr's mindset. The size of his pledge represents George Jr's mental attitude. He couldn't be bothered to pledge money if he denied a tragedy had occurred.

Why did the world redicule a paltry $15 million pledge? Was it because we did not pledge enough? Don't insult the world. $15 million says George Jr refused to acknowledge a Tsunami disaster for 5 days. If he was moral, then the Lincoln would have been dispatched that day - and no one would have been talking paltry money. It took redicule and humiliation to get the mental midget to admit a disaster. Ridicule of an immoral president started with his paltry $15million. The point - leadership of an immoral president.

Apparent, Dagney, you have not yet appreciated why a $15 million pledge was such an embarrassment. It basically said the 12 Indian Ocean nations, "Screw you. We have already decided your disaster is not significant". George Jr said that even with satellite photos sitting on his desk that said otherwise. Where is the morality from a man who could have parachuted pallets of emergency aid that day and had the USS Lincoln there but days later. How is it so moral to let thousands die for five days? Paltry money numbers represents the immoral mindset of a righteous George Jr. He could have pledged $1billion weeks later. It does not change the mindset of a "let them die" president.

Let them die? Its not our problem? How many ten thousands died because no help arrived for more than 3 critical days - in part because George Jr did not care. Where is the morality in that response? Those first three days were the most critical. George Jr sat on his righteous ass for *five* days. Where is the morality? The good and moral Christian response had to come from the rest of the world - when the world so accurately rediculed George Jr.

What was Powell doing while trying to clean up the president's mess? Probably again trying to get the president to get off his ass and be responsible. Behind the scenes, this again sounds like a frustrated Powell quietly appauled at this president's response. Powell had to spin something from no response. As was so obvious on Nightline with George Stephenopolis, Powell was representing a president who did nothing. The word used to describe Powell's 'no win' situation? He 'bristled'. We did nothing for 5 days. Powell again was stuck cleaning up the embarrassment.

Show me how a moral president could just sit there for 5 days and offer what is essentially no help (100 men is zero help when ten thousand were needed - but proves to extremist mentalities that the US responded).

There is no bitter rage here. You may think so because you don't like the facts. Clinton suffered same criticism when he bribed our local Congresswoman - MMM. But the devil gave us George Jr - benchmark for what is immoral.