The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Current Events
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Current Events Help understand the world by talking about things happening in it

View Poll Results: How screwed is Europe?
not screwed 7 25.00%
just a tad screwed 6 21.43%
pretty screwed 11 39.29%
screwed royale 4 14.29%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 11-06-2005, 01:16 AM   #11
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonchi
The Vanity Fair article also pointed out that the recent upswing in anti-Semitism and destruction of Jewish property and synagogues in France, which is giving France a black eye in international organizations which they belong to, is directly attributable to the growing percentage of Muslims there, who will not accept that they live in a secular country now and that kind of hate is not permitted.
IOW symptoms of 'racism' against anyone or anything that is not French. Somehow it is about immigrants who refuse to live a secular life? That's rather naive. These are second and third generation immigrants that have long been angry about being second class citizens. Did the lesson of 1960s American south not demonstrate what happens when some 'second plus' generation citizens are treated also as second class citizens?

I don't see nor hear Muslims demanding that France become a Muslim state. What I do hear is Muslims, Africans (who are neither Muslim nor Arab), and other minorities complaining about being treated as second class "niggers".

Remember France is a nation that blames ills on others such as illegal immigration. BTW, did you notice Americans even in the Cellar make the same complaints about them evil illegal immigrants who are destroying the American way of life? There are lessons to be learned from our peers. Welcome to inevitable globalisation.

What is the complaint from those immigrants in France? Number one complaint is no jobs. So it must be their fault? It must be their insistance on practicing Islam principles? From The Economist of 5 Novermber 2005
Quote:
With 10% unemplyment and a poor Muslim population largely confined to grim suburban housing estates, the ingredients for social explosion have long been brewing. In fact, vehicle-burning has become the suburban crime of choice. Last new year's eve some 333 cars were burned, a figure the police celebrated as "stable".
Show me where and why this problem has not been simmering; only made worse by French national denial and accusations of Islamic extremism?

Next step - does France blame it on Al Qaeda? Or do the French start admitting this has long been a problem created by a French 'Caste' system. A system where Africans have French citizenship officially - but are second class citizens pragmatically.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:41 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.