Senators Clash With Nominee About Torture

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Tw, there is only one Cellarite who believes George Bush made any such accusation. You. You know, the kooky peddler of half truths at most? Indeed, you're righter than you know in your next sentence -- but we know this kind of lie is what's important to you, that you may exercise your penchant for tilting at straw-men of your own constructing. You alone. By yourself. Utterly isolated in your inanition and generally laughed at. Were you a scholar of social matters you would know you couldn't even say George Jr., for that requires a name be reproduced in toto. Bush the younger -- that would have been something you could have used to far better effect, but oh, no. You don't. I suspect you simply can't. That's why I'm so much better a man than you'll ever be -- I don't suffer from the neurosis that plagues you, quite aside from your rigidly antipatriot mindset.

Saddam and Osama were hardly enemies at all, despite this being a leftist shibboleth to which you fanatically adhere in the face of the evidence -- both parties were quite willing to explore a relationship and documentation exists on this point. That it did not come to any great fruition except for a nice hospital stay for al-Zarqawi seems chiefly because we intervened in 2003 and not, say, 2005.

As long as you remain as you are, tw, you are doomed not merely to dwell on the wrong side of history -- you shall personify it.

Wanna have a stab at "honestly identifying" real enemies? Of the foreign variety only, please. (Watch him ignore an opportunity to be constructive.)

You're right, bush never said the words 'Iraq is working with al-Qa'ida.' But he and his friends DID say the following:

A) The war on terror is a threat to our existence.
B) Al-Qa'ida is the terrorist group that is leading the pack.
C) We have to go into Iraq to make it safe from terrorism.

Anyone would connect the dots to think Saddam was working with al-Qa'ida. Then when GW said in a tisy of contempt that he never implied the two were working together. That's funny, an entire country THOUGHT that's what you meant. How stupid of us ALL to get it wrong. I have no doubt that this was engineered to give credence to the whole idea. They do this sort of thing all the time.

And no, al-Qa'ida was not working with the Iraqi government. Saddam hated terrorists, he saw them as a threat that is to volatile to control (funny, he seems to be right about that. If only WE'D figure that out). In fact all this crap about Zarqawi being so beloved by His Lunacy is absurd. They talked with one another, but there was no working relationship whatsoever. Saddam tried on many occasions to blow his ass up, in fact.

Think about it like this: why the hell would Saddam Hussein want to inflame tensions with the US? He didn't give a damn, the only annoyance he had was the no fly zones. It was in no way in his interest to piss the US off into invading. That's probably why he got rid of all his chemical weapons between the late nineties and 2003. He balked us to show strength, not to get us to attack.