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Old 02-26-2008, 07:48 PM   #33
DanaC
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I happen to think teachers in general are definitely underpaid for the services they provide to our society
And that's kind of my point. Teaching has generally been a fairly female job (especially at the primary and non managerial level) and I believe that's one reason it's always been undervalued, even when schools were primarily private. Nurses also have generally been undervalued imo and that too has traditionally been a female vocation.

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but in the case of this argument in general, men are viewed as the root cause of the problem. Men hold the power so men get to decide who gets paid how much.
Not at all. This isn't about men deciding how much women get paid, it's about a multitude of factors both individual and societal which have led to a situation in which the overall paygap between males and females is somewhere in the region of 20% for America and Britain and indeed much of Europe and Scandinavia.

My argument was in response to suggestions that ethnic minorities and women are more powerful in America than i seem to realise; itself in response to a thread about 'angry white men' and their plight.

In America and Britain Middle-class white males are the most economically and politically powerful group taken as a whole. This does not equate to some kind of conspiracy on the part of that group to retain that imbalance it is merely an observation of the current balance of power.
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