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Guest Vaccination & epidemic 05-17-2009, 01:00 PM

Clodfobble A.) There was not a... 05-17-2009, 02:03 PM

Guest A) According to an... 05-17-2009, 03:51 PM

jinx Brian Deer, the Times... 05-17-2009, 05:25 PM

Clodfobble Except we do not agree on... 05-17-2009, 04:54 PM

piercehawkeye45 I agree that this is proper... 05-18-2009, 08:56 AM

Guest You didn't click on the... 05-17-2009, 06:13 PM

jinx How else would I know it was... 05-17-2009, 06:17 PM

Clodfobble I didn't need to click on it,... 05-17-2009, 07:51 PM

xoxoxoBruce Reading this I wonder why... 05-17-2009, 10:27 PM

jinx There are exemption options... 05-18-2009, 09:10 AM

Clodfobble They say you have to be... 05-17-2009, 10:37 PM

Clodfobble Yes, because I also think an... 05-18-2009, 09:29 AM

Guest I don't have anything further... 05-18-2009, 01:05 PM

jinx Nice troll. 05-18-2009, 01:06 PM

Guest This is your only reaction to... 05-18-2009, 01:15 PM

Guest What do you think about Evan... 05-18-2009, 01:14 PM

jinx By an troll, yes. 05-18-2009, 01:19 PM

Guest Oh, yes, clearly all my posts... 05-18-2009, 01:24 PM

jinx A troll is as a troll does,... 05-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Guest Sounds like you're feeling... 05-18-2009, 07:42 PM

DanaC I have always felt,... 05-18-2009, 01:24 PM

Guest I agree with parts of this...... 05-18-2009, 01:36 PM

Undertoad Whether it was the... 05-18-2009, 01:50 PM

Clodfobble So what you're saying is, you... 05-18-2009, 03:01 PM

Guest Nope, with the full... 05-18-2009, 03:10 PM

Clodfobble Perhaps the "people" you... 05-18-2009, 03:37 PM

Griff Turns out we're all on the... 05-18-2009, 05:39 PM

jinx This is absolutely true, but... 05-18-2009, 07:23 PM

Guest I posted that link for the... 05-18-2009, 07:43 PM

Clodfobble I fail to understand that... 05-18-2009, 08:02 PM

Griff The submit without... 05-19-2009, 05:30 AM

Guest Her "official" stance sure... 05-19-2009, 10:23 AM

Undertoad Jinx's last statistic seems... 05-18-2009, 08:39 PM

jinx Cool, how about these? ... 05-18-2009, 09:57 PM

Guest These numbers are completely... 05-19-2009, 10:16 AM

jinx You're wrong again Tiki -... 05-19-2009, 10:22 AM

Guest OK, you're right. I was... 05-19-2009, 10:27 AM

Undertoad So, so, do people think that... 05-18-2009, 08:45 PM

Griff No soap fer me, thanks! Time... 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Clodfobble The problem is that the risk... 05-18-2009, 10:11 PM

Aliantha There are more cases of... 05-18-2009, 10:28 PM

lumberjim There are more cases of... 05-18-2009, 10:57 PM

DanaC My point was that it is not... 05-19-2009, 05:01 AM

Clodfobble Actually, that doesn't make... 05-19-2009, 07:18 AM

Aliantha Whether it makes sense or... 05-19-2009, 06:09 PM

DanaC As I understand it, there has... 05-19-2009, 06:46 PM

jinx You clearly have no idea what... 05-19-2009, 10:35 AM

Guest :lol: 05-19-2009, 10:39 AM

jinx Bacterial vaccines: Anthrax... 05-19-2009, 11:33 AM

Guest I don't think that the fact... 05-19-2009, 01:02 PM

TheMercenary I have pretty much had them... 05-19-2009, 01:10 PM

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Guest The Y. Pestis vaccine, by the... 05-19-2009, 01:06 PM

jinx Argument? I just posted the a... 05-19-2009, 01:18 PM

Guest Sort of a red herring, don't... 05-19-2009, 01:58 PM

jinx No, see, it's not a red... 05-19-2009, 07:29 PM

Guest Unless I missed an entire... 05-19-2009, 07:30 PM

TheMercenary Here in lies the problem with... 05-19-2009, 08:30 PM

lumberjim oh....I though the discussion... 05-19-2009, 02:10 PM

Guest It all depends on what you... 05-19-2009, 02:16 PM

Flint latch onto this 05-19-2009, 02:39 PM

lumberjim I think both clodfobble and... 05-19-2009, 02:34 PM

Guest I love how, if you can't... 05-19-2009, 03:53 PM

Flint ur a poop 05-19-2009, 04:03 PM

Guest :lol: At least Flint has... 05-19-2009, 04:06 PM

lumberjim oh wayull... 05-19-2009, 05:36 PM

Guest Good job of proving my... 05-19-2009, 05:42 PM

lumberjim oh look!... more reasons... 05-19-2009, 07:36 PM

DanaC That's a usertitle waiting to... 05-19-2009, 06:38 PM

Guest You, madame, are genius. 05-19-2009, 07:33 PM

Aliantha That sounds about the same as... 05-19-2009, 06:49 PM

DanaC I do think that the medical... 05-19-2009, 06:53 PM

Guest With all three of my kids, my... 05-19-2009, 07:30 PM

jinx It's far easier for parents... 05-19-2009, 07:35 PM

Aliantha I've never heard of any docs... 05-19-2009, 06:58 PM

Guest Funny how Clod has been able... 05-19-2009, 07:47 PM

lumberjim funny....i know i said i'd... 05-20-2009, 07:09 AM

Guest Paranoid much? Not only... 05-20-2009, 12:20 PM

lumberjim I see you've finally taken... 05-19-2009, 07:54 PM

Guest It stopped being funny when I... 05-19-2009, 07:58 PM

lumberjim i've stopped being nice to... 05-19-2009, 07:59 PM

TGRR I'd like to think so, Jim. ... 05-19-2009, 08:36 PM

lumberjim I would suggest that you lack... 05-19-2009, 09:45 PM

Guest WTF. Why don't you just leave... 05-19-2009, 09:52 PM

TGRR See? Easy solution. 05-19-2009, 09:53 PM

lumberjim you have a deal. on the... 05-19-2009, 10:09 PM

Clodfobble But the question is, do you... 05-19-2009, 08:18 PM

Aliantha Clod, the latter, although I... 05-19-2009, 08:32 PM

TheMercenary I think there has been a lot... 05-19-2009, 08:53 PM

Guest Just some food for thought,... 05-19-2009, 10:12 PM

TGRR Bump. 05-20-2009, 10:58 AM

Clodfobble There are many factors... 05-19-2009, 10:20 PM

piercehawkeye45 What I find interesting about... 05-20-2009, 08:38 AM

Guest I'm afraid I have a very hard... 05-19-2009, 10:24 PM

Guest I was just trying to find the... 05-19-2009, 10:27 PM

Clodfobble Ah, so you finally got around... 05-19-2009, 10:27 PM

Aliantha Fair enough. With regard... 05-19-2009, 10:28 PM

Aliantha I note also that there are a... 05-19-2009, 10:38 PM

Guest I think it's really odd, and... 05-19-2009, 10:49 PM

Clodfobble Absolutely. The fastest way... 05-19-2009, 10:42 PM

Guest But the CDC is continuously... 05-19-2009, 10:53 PM

lumberjim because reason doesn't have... 05-19-2009, 10:51 PM

Aliantha And people selling Nissans... 05-19-2009, 11:17 PM

Undertoad I don't think that line of... 05-20-2009, 09:33 AM

lumberjim it was just a comment about... 05-20-2009, 09:38 AM

TheMercenary Why has this thread begun to... 05-19-2009, 11:20 PM

Aliantha Because there's two sides (at... 05-19-2009, 11:23 PM

DanaC *Nods* That's my... 05-20-2009, 02:50 AM

jinx They're not the only ones..... 05-20-2009, 10:51 AM

Undertoad I think it's really odd that... 05-20-2009, 09:40 AM

Clodfobble Less likely to test for and... 05-20-2009, 10:02 AM

Guest Full-blown autism, sure, but... 05-20-2009, 12:15 PM

morethanpretty So just to clarify for... 05-20-2009, 11:04 AM

TheMercenary Actually all of those issues... 05-20-2009, 11:17 AM

DanaC That's my understanding with... 05-20-2009, 11:50 AM

Undertoad It turns out a shitload of... 05-20-2009, 11:37 AM

DanaC The trouble is, because... 05-20-2009, 11:52 AM

jinx Here's what UT's article says... 05-20-2009, 12:08 PM

TheMercenary What I get from those... 05-20-2009, 12:47 PM

Undertoad this surely isn't the old LJ... 05-20-2009, 12:09 PM

lumberjim see...i noticed that TGRR... 05-23-2009, 07:41 PM

Undertoad Here's what the study... 05-20-2009, 12:20 PM

DanaC UT Ithink the key words there... 05-20-2009, 12:22 PM

DanaC Frankly, the onus should be... 05-20-2009, 12:20 PM

TheMercenary It has always been like that... 05-20-2009, 12:51 PM

Undertoad You guys are working really... 05-20-2009, 12:45 PM

jinx I disagree but thanks for... 05-20-2009, 01:03 PM

jinx It should also be noted that... 05-20-2009, 01:06 PM

TheMercenary That is quite interesting.... 05-20-2009, 01:07 PM

Guest Just FYI: ... 05-20-2009, 01:12 PM

Undertoad That covers the overview and... 05-20-2009, 01:09 PM

jinx I'm not done reading them,... 05-20-2009, 01:14 PM

TheMercenary Here is a list of other... 05-20-2009, 01:11 PM

TheMercenary I do have the ability to pull... 05-20-2009, 01:12 PM

Guest Ooooh really? I might hit you... 05-20-2009, 01:14 PM

TheMercenary I would have to pull them... 05-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Guest OK... if I find something I... 05-20-2009, 01:20 PM

Flint Tiki, are you contributing to... 05-20-2009, 01:15 PM

Guest What does "served" mean? I... 05-20-2009, 01:16 PM

TheMercenary 1 in 12,000 is a pretty high... 05-20-2009, 01:14 PM

Guest Yes, it makes sense that it... 05-20-2009, 01:15 PM

Flint You knocked that out of the... 05-20-2009, 01:16 PM

Flint This thread is the awesomest. 05-20-2009, 01:17 PM

Guest I don't think anyone would... 05-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Flint There's an easy test to see... 05-20-2009, 01:20 PM

TheMercenary Call this guy: ... 05-20-2009, 01:24 PM

TheMercenary Well I have had rotavirus... 05-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Guest Yes, most of the deaths are... 05-20-2009, 01:24 PM

Flint You two are turning this into... 05-20-2009, 01:27 PM

TheMercenary Glad you edited that. How... 05-20-2009, 01:33 PM

Clodfobble They addressed the concern in... 05-20-2009, 01:37 PM

Clodfobble You have to remember to... 05-20-2009, 02:16 PM

Undertoad 7 of the 20. Really. How... 05-20-2009, 02:43 PM

Clodfobble Skimming back through, I... 05-20-2009, 03:38 PM

Guest :lol: Last year, no one in... 05-20-2009, 04:29 PM

Flint I have made joking comments... 05-20-2009, 03:52 PM

Aliantha Exactly my thought Flint. ... 05-20-2009, 04:19 PM

Undertoad I will get the book. 05-20-2009, 04:29 PM

Guest I can't seem to find any... 05-20-2009, 04:31 PM

Clodfobble The book covers that too.... 05-20-2009, 04:43 PM

TheMercenary I think it might be a bit of... 05-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Flint Well, well, well. Your book... 05-20-2009, 04:54 PM

Guest There's tremendous overlap: ... 05-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Aliantha I think decades ago (at least... 05-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Guest Yep. 05-20-2009, 04:55 PM

jinx Absolutely. Thimerosal was... 05-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Clodfobble Like I said, you've never... 05-20-2009, 05:09 PM

TheMercenary I don't want you to think I... 05-20-2009, 05:26 PM

Guest My best friend's son, who I... 05-20-2009, 05:18 PM

Guest That clip wasn't very... 05-20-2009, 05:20 PM

Clodfobble And as you say, she is "in... 05-20-2009, 05:37 PM

TheMercenary That is a peer review of one.... 05-20-2009, 06:02 PM

Guest <shrug> I was exactly the... 05-20-2009, 07:36 PM

Clodfobble *shrug* I dunno. It's... 05-20-2009, 06:08 PM

TheMercenary Ok, cool. I enjoyed it. I... 05-20-2009, 06:16 PM

Guest I did a bit of searching but... 05-20-2009, 07:47 PM

Clodfobble And thus you have provided... 05-20-2009, 07:52 PM

Guest Sigh. No, you're not reading.... 05-20-2009, 08:14 PM

xoxoxoBruce No, really? :eek: 05-21-2009, 01:17 AM

Guest Have you gotten your daily... 05-21-2009, 10:54 AM

TheMercenary I don't believe there are any... 05-20-2009, 08:41 PM

Guest I have two other friends with... 05-20-2009, 08:23 PM

TheMercenary A few good friends of mine... 05-20-2009, 08:39 PM

Clodfobble I do not have any online... 05-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Clodfobble If there is no significant... 05-21-2009, 08:36 AM

Guest Delays in communication and... 05-21-2009, 10:52 AM

Clodfobble Yes, because if there's one... 05-21-2009, 11:31 AM

Guest Some of your statements... 05-21-2009, 11:58 AM

Flint Oh, come on... 05-21-2009, 12:10 PM

Guest I know. Posting informative... 05-21-2009, 03:24 PM

Griff I think it was the part where... 05-21-2009, 03:51 PM

BigV Cite, please. 05-21-2009, 04:11 PM

Griff She has a diagnosed child in... 05-21-2009, 04:26 PM

Guest What previous discussions? Am... 05-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Flint oh no you di'n't! 05-21-2009, 04:08 PM

BigV Cite your assertion of... 05-21-2009, 04:33 PM

Griff Clod lives with the... 05-21-2009, 05:04 PM

Aliantha It's a bit like people... 05-21-2009, 05:30 PM

Griff Spot on Ali. 05-21-2009, 05:32 PM

Aliantha Tiki, I don't know if you've... 05-21-2009, 05:47 PM

Guest Thanks for linking me to the... 05-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Aliantha No problem. Can I give you... 05-21-2009, 05:58 PM

Guest Sure. 05-21-2009, 06:22 PM

Aliantha OK, well I'll try and be as... 05-21-2009, 06:59 PM

Clodfobble It is, in fact, demonstrably... 05-21-2009, 06:27 PM

Guest But it is indisputable that... 05-22-2009, 10:51 AM

Guest I appreciate the advice, but... 05-21-2009, 07:45 PM

Aliantha Tiki, you just basically said... 05-21-2009, 08:15 PM

Guest Um, that's not actually what... 05-21-2009, 09:48 PM

Aliantha Well, I submit to you that... 05-22-2009, 12:45 AM

Guest I have to confess that I... 05-22-2009, 01:22 AM

xoxoxoBruce Some of those threads may not... 05-22-2009, 01:31 AM

Guest Very possible. I try to... 05-22-2009, 01:36 AM

Undertoad This thread is about... 05-22-2009, 06:57 AM

Guest http://img40.imageshack.us/img... 05-22-2009, 10:15 AM

skysidhe Having not read pages 11 to... 05-22-2009, 09:41 AM

Flint @sky: If I am reading you... 05-22-2009, 09:49 AM

PaperClip

Clodfobble ORLY? 05-22-2009, 10:00 AM

Clodfobble Post 153. You must have... 05-22-2009, 10:03 AM

skysidhe I was not commenting on the... 05-22-2009, 10:08 AM

skysidhe exactly..I love that sarcasm.... 05-22-2009, 10:05 AM

skysidhe much more interesting than... 05-22-2009, 10:33 AM

Clodfobble The diagnosis didn't... 05-22-2009, 11:47 AM

Guest http://www.webmd.com/brain/aut... 05-22-2009, 12:33 PM

Flint I love how if just one person... 05-22-2009, 12:01 PM

Clodfobble Tiki, seriously. Come on now.... 05-22-2009, 12:54 PM

Guest I think this has become a... 05-22-2009, 02:33 PM

Flint The crown falls deathly... 05-22-2009, 01:17 PM

Clodfobble If a 200-word webMD article... 05-22-2009, 03:35 PM

Undertoad In order for there to be new... 05-22-2009, 03:53 PM

Clodfobble You'll see it, pages 24... 05-22-2009, 03:57 PM

Undertoad OK cool. That gets us an... 05-22-2009, 04:22 PM

Clodfobble That graph only shows the... 05-22-2009, 05:04 PM

Clodfobble It is interesting to note... 05-22-2009, 05:12 PM

Undertoad say what now 05-23-2009, 08:11 PM

DanaC Not half so much as the... 05-25-2009, 12:18 PM

Shawnee123 We need tough legislation.... 05-25-2009, 12:27 PM

DanaC Wouldn't that be the langwij... 05-25-2009, 12:34 PM

Shawnee123 Yabbut, that looks too much... 05-25-2009, 01:10 PM

Undertoad I have the book and am now... 05-28-2009, 07:50 AM

Clodfobble :lol: 05-28-2009, 03:46 PM

Undertoad I have now reached the point... 06-03-2009, 12:52 PM

Flint I believe that was Mercenary. 06-03-2009, 12:56 PM

Undertoad How many could you do Merc? ... 06-03-2009, 07:22 PM

TheMercenary Just got back from a 7's... 06-07-2009, 08:11 PM

Aliantha Isn't Merc on vacation at the... 06-03-2009, 07:26 PM

Clodfobble I think Pie has access to... 06-03-2009, 07:49 PM

DanaC Meanwhile the news over here... 06-04-2009, 07:00 AM

Clodfobble Really really a requirement,... 06-04-2009, 08:23 AM

DanaC Still at the discussion... 06-04-2009, 09:04 AM

Flint Awesome! Is this as much... 06-07-2009, 08:37 PM

Undertoad Pie sent them along, I just... 06-07-2009, 08:47 PM

TheMercenary No problem. It might be... 06-07-2009, 09:07 PM

Clodfobble It's cool, Merc. It got... 06-07-2009, 09:30 PM

morethanpretty Why don't you say what you... 06-07-2009, 10:18 PM

TheMercenary N Engl J Med. 2003 Mar... 06-08-2009, 07:37 AM

TheMercenary Autism James Robert Brasic,... 06-08-2009, 07:39 AM

TheMercenary Frequency United States... 06-08-2009, 07:40 AM

TheMercenary Social interactions... 06-08-2009, 07:41 AM

TheMercenary Physical Screening well... 06-08-2009, 07:42 AM

TheMercenary Assessing stereotypies... 06-08-2009, 07:43 AM

TheMercenary Causes Decades ago,... 06-08-2009, 07:44 AM

TheMercenary Differential Diagnoses... 06-08-2009, 07:44 AM

TheMercenary This continues through the... 06-08-2009, 07:46 AM

DanaC I would suggest, with the... 06-08-2009, 08:18 AM

TheMercenary Good point. 06-08-2009, 08:19 AM

classicman Maybe that should be removed... 06-08-2009, 09:00 AM

Clodfobble Re: Vaccination & epidemic 07-01-2009, 08:31 AM

jinx Huge surprise there... 07-01-2009, 07:55 PM

Undertoad Bumped. I finally got around... 07-22-2009, 10:58 AM

Clodfobble No one ever claimed that the... 07-22-2009, 03:35 PM

Happy Monkey It's not hard to imagine, no. 07-22-2009, 05:41 PM

Aliantha I don't think most people... 07-22-2009, 05:04 PM

Clodfobble Yes, very cute HM. There are... 07-22-2009, 06:43 PM

Aliantha A lot of African people who... 07-22-2009, 06:49 PM

Clodfobble Right. And they would hold... 07-22-2009, 07:14 PM

TheMercenary The whole thing is much more... 07-22-2009, 07:41 PM

Aliantha My point was that not all... 07-22-2009, 09:14 PM

TheMercenary This is a better synopsis of... 07-22-2009, 09:54 PM

Skunks I don't think in re: Africa... 07-22-2009, 11:53 PM

Clodfobble Yes, we can throw guesses out... 07-23-2009, 07:28 AM

Undertoad It would appear in the case... 07-23-2009, 09:54 AM

Undertoad The NY Times Poling story:... 07-23-2009, 10:08 AM

jinx Do you have a link to the... 07-23-2009, 10:14 AM

jinx Mitochondrial dysfunction,... 08-06-2009, 10:20 AM

Undertoad Uh well no actually...... 07-23-2009, 11:08 AM

Clodfobble There is no such thing as... 07-23-2009, 11:08 AM

jinx I think what he means is that... 07-23-2009, 11:15 AM

Clodfobble I don't know about the Hannah... 07-23-2009, 11:09 AM

OnyxCougar Links regarding vaccinations... 07-31-2009, 02:03 PM

Clodfobble No offense OC, but when... 07-31-2009, 10:59 PM

OnyxCougar Let me ask you this: What... 08-07-2009, 12:46 PM

TheMercenary Interesting. But: 1. They... 08-06-2009, 10:38 AM

Undertoad I thought thimerosal was... 08-06-2009, 10:52 AM

jinx You better call the authors... 08-06-2009, 11:01 AM

Undertoad I thought it was ruled out... 08-06-2009, 11:21 AM

Clodfobble It's been taken out of most... 08-06-2009, 11:33 AM

Undertoad Wikipedia says... 08-06-2009, 11:41 AM

jinx Don't forget about pregnant... 08-06-2009, 11:53 AM

jinx Thimerosal containing... 08-06-2009, 12:18 PM

Clodfobble No one ever said it was the... 08-06-2009, 11:52 AM

Undertoad I dunno, a year? Surely not... 08-06-2009, 12:34 PM

jinx My point in posting the study... 08-06-2009, 01:16 PM

TheMercenary Good questions. It is still... 08-06-2009, 01:30 PM

Clodfobble A moot point can still be... 08-06-2009, 07:23 PM

Aliantha People don't go out in the... 08-06-2009, 07:46 PM

Clodfobble Beyond that, there is a... 08-06-2009, 09:30 PM

Clodfobble From HuffPo: Autism Rate... 08-11-2009, 04:59 PM

jinx Engerix-B also uses MF59... 08-11-2009, 08:25 PM

OnyxCougar Christ on a cracker!! This... 08-12-2009, 09:46 AM

OnyxCougar source... 08-18-2009, 09:26 AM

OnyxCougar source... 08-18-2009, 09:32 AM

OnyxCougar Re: Vaccination & epidemic 08-18-2009, 09:33 AM

Clodfobble Looks like biomedical... 08-25-2009, 04:47 PM

jinx Did you watch? 08-30-2009, 08:09 PM

classicman I got to see the last 5... 08-30-2009, 09:04 PM

Clodfobble That's okay, I'm pissed I... 08-30-2009, 10:14 PM

classicman He probably did to get the... 08-31-2009, 09:24 AM

Clodfobble To be fair, it was probably... 08-31-2009, 04:00 PM

Clodfobble Case in point: today I just... 08-31-2009, 05:35 PM

Undertoad Is it true that Wakefield... 09-01-2009, 12:17 PM

Clodfobble They addressed that... 09-01-2009, 01:06 PM

Clodfobble Thoughtful House's response... 09-01-2009, 01:19 PM

Undertoad All vaccines are... 09-01-2009, 01:25 PM

jinx No they're not - there are... 09-01-2009, 07:39 PM

Undertoad Does this discredit the... 09-01-2009, 01:29 PM

Undertoad Remember how the case was not... 09-01-2009, 01:35 PM

jinx No that was the Hannah Poling... 09-01-2009, 07:37 PM

Undertoad Huh, true, and interesting. ... 09-01-2009, 11:04 PM

jinx Huh, yeah, it's true. I... 09-02-2009, 05:00 PM

xoxoxoBruce Somebody's got to play the... 09-03-2009, 02:29 AM

jinx You're absolutely right B,... 09-03-2009, 07:03 PM

classicman :eek: :p 09-03-2009, 10:16 PM

Clodfobble Depends on whether you... 09-01-2009, 11:26 PM

Clodfobble I'm not sure which Danish... 09-01-2009, 11:42 PM

Undertoad later in the patent... 09-01-2009, 11:56 PM

Undertoad There's also another NEJM... 09-02-2009, 12:04 AM

Undertoad OK, the Bailey Banks finding... 09-02-2009, 12:18 AM

jinx Understanding the NVICP... 09-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Clodfobble Then I guess it looks like he... 09-02-2009, 08:03 AM

Undertoad In the short run, yes, all... 09-02-2009, 09:10 AM

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Clodfobble I don't buy it. Just as... 09-02-2009, 10:36 AM

Undertoad Because the output is... 09-02-2009, 01:19 PM

Clodfobble No, I criticize their... 09-02-2009, 01:51 PM

Clodfobble As I have explained, the... 09-02-2009, 01:59 PM

Clodfobble Sorry this is so disjointed,... 09-02-2009, 02:25 PM

DanaC Well said Clod. Right... 09-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Undertoad By the very same reasoning,... 09-02-2009, 04:09 PM

classicman Can't they both be right to... 09-02-2009, 03:25 PM

Undertoad As I understand it,... 09-02-2009, 03:28 PM

DanaC Well...I wasn't raised in a... 09-02-2009, 03:32 PM

DanaC Linking a wiki definition of... 09-02-2009, 04:31 PM

Clodfobble Once again, the system is not... 09-02-2009, 04:59 PM

Undertoad I'm sure you agree with David... 09-02-2009, 05:11 PM

Undertoad Nobody's understanding of the... 09-02-2009, 05:06 PM

jinx You are sitting in front of a... 09-02-2009, 05:09 PM

Clodfobble Four of those studies have... 09-02-2009, 05:33 PM

Undertoad It's hard to do it without... 09-03-2009, 09:05 AM

DanaC Actually that's a damn good... 09-03-2009, 09:58 AM

Undertoad As the most informed Cellar... 09-04-2009, 09:16 AM

jinx I'm sorry I hurt your... 09-04-2009, 10:12 AM

Undertoad I'm sorry for sucking enough... 09-04-2009, 10:16 AM

jinx nMtruyRmI_M ... 09-20-2009, 06:41 PM

TheMercenary Information Pertaining to... 09-20-2009, 06:44 PM

jinx Glad to help. 09-20-2009, 06:45 PM

morethanpretty shit i'm due for my 3rd in... 09-20-2009, 07:23 PM

TheMercenary We have gone ahead with it.... 09-20-2009, 07:36 PM

jinx Agreed. I think it's... 09-20-2009, 07:47 PM

TheMercenary No doubt. But from my... 09-20-2009, 08:34 PM

jinx From the Risk and Benefits... 09-20-2009, 09:24 PM

TheMercenary This may be true. But current... 09-21-2009, 02:49 AM

Clodfobble New Research Study Shows... 09-30-2009, 12:26 PM

Clodfobble I have just learned something... 10-08-2009, 03:53 PM

jinx Yes, it is. 10-08-2009, 06:54 PM

TheMercenary I respect your views but you... 10-08-2009, 06:56 PM

jinx The full manuscript has not... 10-08-2009, 07:10 PM

TheMercenary Understood. I may be able to... 10-08-2009, 07:21 PM

jinx Sweet. Thanks. 10-08-2009, 07:24 PM

TheMercenary Damm. Which one is it that... 10-08-2009, 07:26 PM

jinx It's just the abstract... ... 10-08-2009, 07:34 PM

TheMercenary Got it. Give me till early... 10-08-2009, 07:38 PM

jinx Great, thanks again. 10-08-2009, 07:42 PM

TheMercenary I found it but couldn't open... 10-09-2009, 11:47 AM

TheMercenary Here are some others from... 10-09-2009, 12:14 PM

Clodfobble A retrovirus (similar to HIV)... 10-17-2009, 04:01 PM

xoxoxoBruce So is it a matter of timing,... 10-18-2009, 01:10 AM

TheMercenary I think that is a bit of a... 10-27-2009, 07:31 AM

Clodfobble In theory, yes, just like a... 10-18-2009, 10:05 AM

xoxoxoBruce Ahhh, OK. Thank you. :D 10-18-2009, 01:59 PM

Clodfobble Have you heard about Desiree... 10-26-2009, 11:19 PM

classicman And how many people are going... 10-27-2009, 08:00 AM

Clodfobble Oh hey, I forgot to mention,... 10-27-2009, 11:38 AM

Undertoad Apparently the neurology... 10-27-2009, 01:26 PM

Flint Are you ƒucking kidding me? ... 10-27-2009, 02:27 PM

Undertoad Desiree followup: ... 12-03-2009, 10:09 AM

xoxoxoBruce Does that mean an influx of... 12-03-2009, 10:29 AM

Clodfobble The brain is a delicate and... 10-27-2009, 01:48 PM

Cloud can't even get the flu shots... 10-27-2009, 01:58 PM

Undertoad Yes, stupid people.... 10-27-2009, 04:03 PM

Undertoad Yes, where "some guy" is Dr.... 10-27-2009, 04:39 PM

Undertoad Here's what the Dystonia... 10-27-2009, 04:44 PM

Pico and ME There is still no way that... 10-27-2009, 04:57 PM

TheMercenary Gardasil Researcher Drops A... 10-29-2009, 11:19 PM

Clodfobble It just makes me cry. ... 10-30-2009, 07:18 AM

Shawnee123 It's scary. I had a friend... 10-30-2009, 07:55 AM

glatt The HPV vaccine article... 10-30-2009, 08:43 AM

monster what is the risk dying from... 11-01-2009, 08:52 PM

glatt I think it's too soon to... 11-02-2009, 07:31 AM

jinx Thanks clod, I appreciate the... 11-02-2009, 09:15 AM

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Undertoad The Dystonia Foundation... 10-30-2009, 08:39 AM

TheMercenary I still lean towards... 10-30-2009, 01:33 PM

Clodfobble Cite please? The article... 10-30-2009, 06:27 PM

glatt The cite was the chart I... 10-31-2009, 08:28 AM

Clodfobble Her neurologist says she has... 10-30-2009, 09:12 PM

Clodfobble Well the blog author doesn't... 10-31-2009, 09:12 AM

glatt Let's use your numbers. The... 10-31-2009, 04:13 PM

Undertoad You have to add some anal... 10-31-2009, 04:48 PM

Clodfobble And yet you are so personally... 10-31-2009, 05:49 PM

glatt Thanks. I was trying to be... 11-01-2009, 06:59 AM

xoxoxoBruce And you don't have a crystal... 11-01-2009, 09:16 AM

Undertoad Look at you getting way... 10-31-2009, 07:06 PM

Clodfobble You know that thing Flint's... 10-31-2009, 10:19 PM

Undertoad You have changed your mind! ... 11-01-2009, 10:52 AM

Pico and ME Bravo! 10-31-2009, 10:31 PM

Clodfobble Sensationalism doesn't... 11-01-2009, 09:19 AM

Clodfobble You have changed your mind!... 11-01-2009, 01:28 PM

Clodfobble I have been trying to... 11-01-2009, 02:00 PM

Undertoad Heh heh, well played. ... 11-01-2009, 03:03 PM

Undertoad Hoax, self-hoax, or evolving... 11-01-2009, 04:25 PM

Undertoad Generation Rescue shipping... 11-01-2009, 04:41 PM

Clodfobble Well at least we now know... 11-01-2009, 04:50 PM

Clodfobble You do see where this is... 11-01-2009, 05:16 PM

jinx 2O014fPXScU TmPOS5w1UBY 11-01-2009, 05:40 PM

Undertoad The Inside Edition segment... 11-01-2009, 05:25 PM

jinx Did you think I was crazy? It... 11-01-2009, 05:45 PM

Clodfobble Not crazy, just wrong.... 11-01-2009, 08:36 PM

Undertoad Clod, maybe a leading... 11-02-2009, 11:58 AM

Clodfobble Not to mention the fact that... 11-02-2009, 01:54 PM

Shawnee123 You know, the whole "cervical... 11-02-2009, 02:38 PM

glatt I assume you're referring to... 11-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Undertoad That wasn't the lead, and I... 11-02-2009, 02:58 PM

Undertoad Generation Rescue has taken... 11-02-2009, 03:28 PM

Undertoad Neurologist/skeptic blogger... 11-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Shawnee123 I realize that, and I don't... 11-02-2009, 03:46 PM

Clodfobble There is, a bit. I'm not sure... 11-02-2009, 05:21 PM

Spexxvet Damned if you do, damned if... 11-03-2009, 08:25 AM

glatt Funny thing to say, "at... 11-03-2009, 08:33 AM

Spexxvet Some deaths might be from the... 11-03-2009, 08:43 AM

Clodfobble Here's an example of the... 11-03-2009, 11:53 PM

xoxoxoBruce But what if they play in... 11-04-2009, 12:43 AM

SamIam This has probably been... 11-04-2009, 09:05 AM

tw Because a doctor will not... 11-04-2009, 09:44 AM

Undertoad Generation Rescue has put up... 11-04-2009, 08:52 AM

Clodfobble Hey tw? I'm not going to... 11-04-2009, 10:12 AM

Undertoad http://www.examiner.com/x-1379... 11-04-2009, 10:55 PM

Undertoad Desiree immediately much... 11-06-2009, 01:30 PM

Undertoad Neurologica blog interprets... 11-06-2009, 01:31 PM

Clodfobble I find the speed of her... 11-06-2009, 03:24 PM

jinx So where are all the people... 11-06-2009, 04:35 PM

Undertoad Desiree Jennings' doctor, Dr.... 11-12-2009, 02:45 PM

classicman Link... 11-16-2009, 09:08 PM

Undertoad Desiree update: interviewed... 11-20-2009, 03:54 PM

Clodfobble No, "typical" acute... 11-20-2009, 09:33 PM

skysidhe There are many types of... 11-20-2009, 11:05 PM

xoxoxoBruce Whoa, wait a damn minute... 11-21-2009, 04:04 AM

Flint You just Googled that 15... 11-20-2009, 11:18 PM

skysidhe lol yes flint I can too be... 11-20-2009, 11:39 PM

Clodfobble Sorry, but you're not a... 11-20-2009, 11:19 PM

Clodfobble No, by definition they can't.... 11-20-2009, 11:48 PM

classicman There are others as well. ... 11-21-2009, 09:18 AM

skysidhe I should have said not having... 11-21-2009, 12:05 AM

Clodfobble I'm sure UT is thrilled to... 11-21-2009, 12:22 AM

Undertoad Thanks for the corrections C.... 11-21-2009, 06:42 AM

Clodfobble Based on what I know, I'd... 11-21-2009, 09:00 AM

Undertoad Followup A: Do you believe... 11-21-2009, 09:16 AM

skysidhe I am attempting to answer... 11-21-2009, 09:26 AM

Clodfobble A.) Yes, insomuch as I... 11-21-2009, 09:51 AM

Undertoad He started chelation on the... 11-21-2009, 09:58 AM

Clodfobble From what I can see, the... 11-21-2009, 10:17 AM

Undertoad It was Dr. Buttar and Desiree... 11-21-2009, 10:52 AM

Undertoad Buttar tweeted... 11-21-2009, 11:01 AM

Clodfobble Sorry, I don't know how I... 11-21-2009, 11:27 AM

tw Observation alone is classic... 11-21-2009, 04:42 PM

Undertoad Dr. Buttar's diagnosis was "a... 11-21-2009, 01:12 PM

Undertoad Direct experience is only one... 11-21-2009, 01:14 PM

Clodfobble Dr. Buttar is not qualified... 11-21-2009, 06:04 PM

tw Do you understand that foods... 11-21-2009, 07:25 PM

Griff Stop eating fluorescent bulbs! 11-21-2009, 07:39 PM

tw But it lights up my life? 11-21-2009, 07:42 PM

Undertoad Desiree update: not... 11-22-2009, 04:35 PM

tw What is and what would be the... 11-22-2009, 07:58 PM

Clodfobble Not everyone has a problem... 11-21-2009, 07:42 PM

tw Now you are discussing... 11-21-2009, 07:56 PM

Clodfobble Yes, such studies would be... 11-21-2009, 08:51 PM

tw If measurements are... 11-21-2009, 10:00 PM

Clodfobble That's correct. Usually, once... 11-21-2009, 10:37 PM

xoxoxoBruce When they feed chemical... 11-22-2009, 12:38 AM

Clodfobble I'm impressed at the... 11-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Undertoad I looked up all other VAERS... 11-22-2009, 08:01 PM

Undertoad Thimerosol is a antiseptic... 11-22-2009, 08:03 PM

Undertoad Dr. Buttar addresses the... 11-26-2009, 12:05 PM

Clodfobble Dr. Buttar is incorrectly... 11-26-2009, 07:18 PM

xoxoxoBruce Is he saying, if it's not... 11-26-2009, 08:43 PM

jinx Polio vaccine causing polio... 12-01-2009, 11:10 AM

Undertoad And vaccine alarmists. I... 12-03-2009, 10:35 AM

Flint You know what? I stand by my... 12-04-2009, 10:38 PM

Undertoad You said "some guy" again. ... 12-05-2009, 12:34 AM

jinx Did you watch the second... 12-05-2009, 11:22 AM

Undertoad Sure, but it's the much less... 12-05-2009, 03:06 PM

jinx So it's not the symptoms you... 12-05-2009, 06:00 PM

Undertoad One of them seems to go... 12-05-2009, 06:33 PM

jinx Why wouldn't he? What makes... 12-05-2009, 12:02 PM

Undertoad The ones documented here? ... 12-05-2009, 06:15 PM

jinx Yes, there have been quite a... 12-05-2009, 06:26 PM

Undertoad My response is already in... 12-05-2009, 07:37 PM

Clodfobble You have it backwards. He is... 12-05-2009, 11:43 AM

Clodfobble Nitpick: the botulism doesn't... 12-05-2009, 03:19 PM

Undertoad As a reminder, so we can keep... 12-05-2009, 04:39 PM

jinx I'd be more easily convinced... 12-05-2009, 06:38 PM

Clodfobble Dangerous is a relative word,... 12-05-2009, 08:37 PM

Undertoad Of course I would agree; of... 12-05-2009, 10:39 PM

Flint I could prevent myself from... 12-05-2009, 10:44 PM

lumberjim See... to me....the chances... 12-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Undertoad The numbers are available. ... 12-05-2009, 11:20 PM

Flint Oh yeah, there's so many... 12-05-2009, 11:25 PM

lumberjim i met a man a couple weeks... 12-06-2009, 09:26 PM

Undertoad Man i gotta stop editing... 12-05-2009, 11:01 PM

Clodfobble The difference is, they... 12-06-2009, 08:48 AM

Undertoad Incorrect. There's no... 12-06-2009, 10:57 AM

Flint Tangental “style and tactics”... 12-06-2009, 12:34 PM

Undertoad We don't have to do to half. ... 12-06-2009, 01:01 PM

Flint I was actually paying you a... 12-06-2009, 01:34 PM

Undertoad Apologies then, it was the... 12-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Flint I apologize--I should have... 12-06-2009, 01:49 PM

jinx link ... 12-07-2009, 07:58 PM

jinx link ... 12-07-2009, 08:13 PM

Undertoad Oh you hippie chicks, scared... 12-07-2009, 09:33 PM

Clodfobble Incorrect. There is enough... 12-06-2009, 01:54 PM

Undertoad Wikipedia:... 12-06-2009, 03:06 PM

jinx Why did you leave this part... 12-06-2009, 05:47 PM

Undertoad Cos we're not talking about... 12-06-2009, 09:10 PM

Undertoad http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/dif... 12-06-2009, 03:09 PM

Clodfobble Of course they called it a... 12-06-2009, 03:51 PM

jinx But here's some evidence... 12-06-2009, 09:04 PM

Undertoad That's very strong. Fetuses... 12-06-2009, 09:13 PM

Clodfobble Do you still trust the health... 12-06-2009, 09:24 PM

Undertoad Yes, that study is from this... 12-06-2009, 09:31 PM

Clodfobble What if you had a baby older... 12-06-2009, 10:06 PM

Undertoad Probably. For one thing,... 12-06-2009, 10:32 PM

skysidhe The influenza virus is... 12-06-2009, 10:45 PM

ZenGum The example of the tobacco... 12-07-2009, 08:49 PM

jinx Yeah there wasn't much of a... 12-07-2009, 09:45 PM

Clodfobble Yes. And no one should have... 12-08-2009, 08:26 AM

jinx Yeah the how-to-be-happier in... 12-08-2009, 09:49 AM

jinx Here it is... 12-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Undertoad :mad2: Fine, I was being... 12-08-2009, 12:33 PM

jinx Actually, some of them are... 12-08-2009, 12:44 PM

Undertoad *sigh* entirely not the point. 12-08-2009, 12:55 PM

jinx So its ok to "speculate" but... 12-08-2009, 01:15 PM

Clodfobble It's not "hard to impossible"... 12-08-2009, 01:46 PM

Undertoad Precisely; and it's up to the... 12-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Clodfobble Right. At which point, it's... 12-08-2009, 03:17 PM

lumberjim alarmist hippie chicks? 12-08-2009, 03:49 PM

Undertoad Clod, glad you agree that... 12-08-2009, 03:56 PM

jinx Um, no. I went looking for... 12-08-2009, 06:45 PM

Undertoad FTFY. 12-08-2009, 07:34 PM

jinx You know that's not true,... 12-08-2009, 07:41 PM

Clodfobble You're letting your anger... 12-08-2009, 04:23 PM

Undertoad But you don't support arguing... 12-08-2009, 05:04 PM

Clodfobble No, I don't support... 12-08-2009, 05:49 PM

Undertoad Your link didn't mention... 12-08-2009, 07:28 PM

Clodfobble You're the one who keeps... 12-08-2009, 05:59 PM

Undertoad Can you just please point to... 12-08-2009, 08:29 PM

Clodfobble The Hepatitis B vaccine was... 12-08-2009, 10:24 PM

Undertoad Maybe we're looking at... 12-08-2009, 10:47 PM

Clodfobble Ah, my mistake. The one that... 12-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Undertoad Another day, more reading! ... 12-09-2009, 01:51 PM

Clodfobble The idea is not that it... 12-09-2009, 03:14 PM

Undertoad Another way to think of... 12-09-2009, 04:17 PM

Aliantha The issues here are obviously... 12-09-2009, 03:24 PM

Clodfobble Yes. Because as I've said... 12-09-2009, 04:43 PM

skysidhe Yes neurological and yes... 12-09-2009, 06:09 PM

Clodfobble I don't have access to any of... 12-09-2009, 05:21 PM

Clodfobble Krause I, et al. Brief... 12-09-2009, 05:25 PM

TheMercenary Please don't ever lampoon me... 12-09-2009, 09:11 PM

Clodfobble Vojdani A, et al. Infections,... 12-09-2009, 05:25 PM

Clodfobble :p 12-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Clodfobble It's all connected, sidhe.... 12-09-2009, 06:24 PM

skysidhe I don't have deep insight.... 12-09-2009, 06:38 PM

Undertoad Desiree update: Her... 12-09-2009, 07:38 PM

ZenGum I find the wiki decision odd.... 12-10-2009, 12:20 AM

TheMercenary I imagine you would need to... 12-10-2009, 09:18 AM

Spexxvet Is there a documented case of... 12-10-2009, 09:25 AM

skysidhe wow clod. I didn't read well... 12-09-2009, 09:54 PM

Clodfobble Um, Merc? I don't lampoon... 12-09-2009, 10:17 PM

Clodfobble It's okay, now we can quit... 12-10-2009, 08:13 AM

Clodfobble Yes, there are many, because... 12-10-2009, 09:31 AM

skysidhe Issac Newton? Einstein? I'm... 12-10-2009, 09:45 AM

Clodfobble We've already addressed the... 12-10-2009, 10:30 AM

skysidhe It is the law that all... 12-10-2009, 10:53 AM

xoxoxoBruce Then how come I keep seeing... 12-10-2009, 11:17 AM

Undertoad This is a new theory on your... 12-10-2009, 10:56 AM

skysidhe I have no idea. I don't know... 12-10-2009, 11:25 AM

Undertoad Orac crushes the Hep B monkey... 12-10-2009, 12:44 PM

Pico and ME Forced may have been too... 12-10-2009, 12:49 PM

classicman Thirded - Pico! I have seen... 12-10-2009, 01:21 PM

skysidhe pico I understand that... 12-10-2009, 01:24 PM

Undertoad For archival purposes, I have... 12-10-2009, 02:41 PM

Clodfobble Jesus Christ on a cracker,... 12-10-2009, 02:46 PM

Clodfobble Also, I read the Orac... 12-10-2009, 03:00 PM

Undertoad I'll re-read it for that, but... 12-10-2009, 03:34 PM

Undertoad We're ruling out the morons... 12-10-2009, 03:27 PM

Undertoad Nitpick: it points to gut... 12-10-2009, 03:36 PM

Clodfobble This one, plus 'some... 12-10-2009, 03:55 PM

Clodfobble Yeah, if they mention it. But... 12-10-2009, 03:57 PM

Aliantha Inflamation of the brain... 12-10-2009, 04:35 PM

jinx Vaccines for preventing... 12-17-2009, 12:13 PM

Flint Hello? They don't have to do... 12-17-2009, 12:18 PM

glatt Speaking of efficacy, did... 12-17-2009, 12:24 PM

Undertoad IOW, the live/weakened nasal... 12-17-2009, 01:18 PM

jinx Flu vacine efficacy is... 12-17-2009, 01:50 PM

Undertoad I'm going by what the Summary... 12-17-2009, 02:50 PM

ZenGum Saying "82% of illnesses were... 12-17-2009, 05:35 PM

TheMercenary Yea but it was 600k! :D :lol2: 01-05-2010, 06:12 PM

Griff Panel finds no digestion... 01-05-2010, 08:55 PM

Clodfobble Here is a perfect example of... 01-05-2010, 05:45 PM

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Clodfobble For tw 01-07-2010, 01:10 PM

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Clodfobble And the "after" data; i.e.,... 01-07-2010, 01:16 PM

Clodfobble The big question now, of... 01-07-2010, 01:21 PM

gvidas Interesting data. You... 01-08-2010, 07:25 AM

Clodfobble Time-wise it could be done... 01-08-2010, 08:33 AM

Undertoad Orac on this use of chelation... 01-08-2010, 09:44 AM

Undertoad Quackwatch on the use of this... 01-08-2010, 10:02 AM

jinx Are you a fan of Stephen... 01-08-2010, 07:54 PM

Undertoad Never heard of him before. 01-08-2010, 11:47 PM

xoxoxoBruce Not unless there's lead there... 01-09-2010, 01:46 AM

Clodfobble My understanding is that the... 01-08-2010, 10:27 AM

Undertoad The main point is not that an... 01-08-2010, 10:54 AM

skysidhe from webMD 01-08-2010, 11:41 AM

Clodfobble The range Doctor's Data... 01-08-2010, 12:36 PM

Undertoad I'm saying the levels after... 01-08-2010, 02:21 PM

Clodfobble And what if your urine turned... 01-08-2010, 05:04 PM

Undertoad Not true!! Go back and look... 01-08-2010, 11:36 PM

Clodfobble I messed up my units, here.... 01-08-2010, 09:45 PM

Clodfobble Yes, he peed eight-tenths of... 01-09-2010, 09:25 AM

Undertoad link plz Because that's... 01-09-2010, 12:58 PM

Clodfobble According to you, at least... 01-09-2010, 02:23 PM

Undertoad Either you didn't read or you... 01-09-2010, 04:04 PM

skysidhe When you go to the doctor... 01-09-2010, 05:04 PM

Clodfobble Okay. Here's a study of... 01-09-2010, 05:19 PM

Undertoad Step by step, mathematician... 01-09-2010, 06:41 PM

Clodfobble My chart says 11.6 milligrams... 01-09-2010, 11:55 PM

Undertoad Desiree semi-update: I... 01-11-2010, 01:32 PM

jinx Hey Clod, according to Forbes... 01-30-2010, 11:49 AM

Clodfobble Heh... a guy with no major... 01-30-2010, 01:33 PM

squirell nutkin Clod, we went though this... 01-30-2010, 07:22 PM

Undertoad Desiree Jennings update: ... 02-05-2010, 09:40 AM

Flint lol 02-05-2010, 12:32 PM

jinx Vaccine Researcher Flees with... 03-30-2010, 09:56 PM

jinx Rotarix rotavirus vaccine... 04-13-2010, 10:42 AM

TheMercenary That is pretty crazy Jinx. I... 04-14-2010, 08:13 AM

Griff A child came into my... 06-12-2010, 09:10 AM

jinx Combination MMRV vaccine... 06-28-2010, 09:19 PM

jinx Whooping Cough Kills 5 in... 07-15-2010, 10:59 AM

classicman hmmm - even I can see there... 07-15-2010, 11:31 AM

classicman H1N1 vaccine suspended due to... 08-26-2010, 10:58 PM

Undertoad http://www.webmd.com/brain/aut... 09-14-2010, 09:32 AM

Happy Monkey Maybe mercury deprivation... 09-14-2010, 09:52 AM

classicman ... and eating lead paint... 09-14-2010, 10:54 AM

Clodfobble One wonders why they would... 09-14-2010, 03:43 PM

Undertoad One knows why. 09-14-2010, 04:02 PM

Clodfobble Yes, because most science is... 09-14-2010, 04:23 PM

Undertoad Aren't you not supposed to be... 09-14-2010, 04:49 PM

Clodfobble I'm sorry, UT. As has... 09-14-2010, 05:52 PM

Undertoad Thanks. (You da woman, hang... 09-14-2010, 07:07 PM

classicman Linking another thread as it... 09-20-2010, 07:57 AM

jinx Herd immunity? City living... 09-23-2010, 02:07 PM

Happy Monkey Evolution works, but letting... 09-23-2010, 02:22 PM

Clodfobble But is it really, HM? 1 death... 09-23-2010, 02:34 PM

classicman For a fully functioning... 09-23-2010, 02:45 PM

Clodfobble Initially posted in this... 09-27-2010, 12:33 AM

DanaC That's really exciting stuff... 09-27-2010, 06:24 AM

xoxoxoBruce Yes, a step toward... 09-27-2010, 10:13 AM

Clodfobble There is a blood test... 09-27-2010, 11:43 AM

Undertoad This one is pretty... 09-27-2010, 12:04 PM

classicman Great news Clod. Hope is a... 09-27-2010, 12:36 PM

DanaC The case against the... 01-06-2011, 08:40 AM

HungLikeJesus What about motive? 01-06-2011, 10:35 AM

Shawnee123 Yikes! 01-06-2011, 10:36 AM

Lamplighter I'm not a litigious sort, but... 01-06-2011, 10:44 AM

HungLikeJesus I forgot to include this: 01-06-2011, 10:38 AM

Undertoad The BMJ article they... 01-06-2011, 10:48 AM

Happy Monkey This thread can now... 01-06-2011, 11:29 AM

Clodfobble Please clarify... do you... 01-06-2011, 12:48 PM

DanaC I personally consider him to... 01-06-2011, 12:51 PM

Undertoad I carefully excerpted the... 01-06-2011, 01:00 PM

Clodfobble "Autism research monies" have... 01-06-2011, 01:11 PM

DanaC Fair enough: though part of... 01-06-2011, 01:42 PM

Clodfobble No, see, you've been had. The... 01-06-2011, 02:13 PM

DanaC Well, you myay be right. But... 01-06-2011, 02:21 PM

Clodfobble That's because they never... 01-06-2011, 02:36 PM

footfootfoot [/quote] Will you, as an NP,... 01-06-2011, 03:13 PM

Undertoad What the BMJ bit adds, and... 01-06-2011, 03:19 PM

Clodfobble Since May of 2009? Ah, yes, I... 01-06-2011, 05:17 PM

Clodfobble I'm unclear on the... 01-06-2011, 05:36 PM

TheMercenary I think this may provide... 01-06-2011, 09:46 PM

tw You are repeating what... 01-07-2011, 09:07 AM

glatt You forgot Listerine. But I... 01-07-2011, 09:30 AM

tw Scams that exist only because... 01-07-2011, 10:26 AM

DanaC *looks slightly startled*... 01-07-2011, 03:32 AM

Undertoad citation needed 01-07-2011, 12:32 PM

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Shawnee123 :rolleyes: 01-07-2011, 01:08 PM

TheMercenary :lol: good one. 01-07-2011, 01:37 PM

Shawnee123 :) 01-07-2011, 01:39 PM

Undertoad :lol: 01-07-2011, 01:47 PM

glatt I'm not sure what the point... 01-16-2011, 04:13 PM

Clodfobble I'm so sorry, glatt. If they... 01-16-2011, 05:41 PM

glatt Refresh my memory, what did... 01-17-2011, 08:43 AM

TheMercenary glatt, maybe they could get... 01-17-2011, 07:14 AM

xoxoxoBruce I'm having trouble with the... 01-17-2011, 07:39 AM

TheMercenary It should. Absolutely. ... 01-17-2011, 08:01 AM

Undertoad Good luck with that, it would... 01-17-2011, 08:25 AM

Clodfobble It's not about the bug, it's... 01-17-2011, 04:16 PM

glatt Thank you for all your... 01-17-2011, 08:50 PM

Lamplighter Jenny McCarthy, where are you... 05-23-2013, 08:03 AM

Undertoad PANDAS resource network FAQ... 01-17-2011, 04:42 PM

Clodfobble Just wanted to be clear... 01-17-2011, 04:46 PM

Undertoad As long as you understand the... 01-17-2011, 04:47 PM

Clodfobble That's just in the first four... 01-17-2011, 05:01 PM

Undertoad OK let's use an example. ... 01-17-2011, 07:07 PM

Clodfobble Absolutely. And when it has... 01-17-2011, 07:22 PM

monster pwnd. 01-17-2011, 08:47 PM

Clodfobble How incredible would it be,... 05-23-2013, 01:12 PM

DanaC I don't get this comment at... 05-24-2013, 04:25 AM

regular.joe Ask for the moon too. ... 05-23-2013, 04:03 PM

Clodfobble That's not necessary; they... 05-23-2013, 05:06 PM

Clodfobble If the only datapoint being... 05-24-2013, 08:03 AM

Lamplighter It's not at all just a single... 05-24-2013, 11:48 AM

jimhelm bkjmzEEQUlE 05-24-2013, 10:13 AM

Clodfobble You misunderstand. I'm not... 05-24-2013, 12:15 PM

piercehawkeye45 I do agree that our world is... 05-24-2013, 02:52 PM

Happy Monkey No, outsmarting nature is the... 05-24-2013, 02:00 PM

Clodfobble I disagree. Most of what you... 05-24-2013, 04:43 PM

Lamplighter Yes, we learned that a door... 05-24-2013, 04:58 PM

Clodfobble Except apparently, according... 05-24-2013, 05:02 PM

Lamplighter I know of very few things in... 05-24-2013, 06:07 PM

DanaC Except, we're not talking... 05-24-2013, 05:44 PM

Clodfobble If it is as you say, then the... 05-24-2013, 06:18 PM

DanaC It may have been one study 15... 05-25-2013, 05:40 AM

Clodfobble But then why vaccinate for... 05-25-2013, 09:32 AM

Griff I'll state the obvious: ... 05-25-2013, 09:41 AM

Lamplighter Preventative immunizations... 05-25-2013, 09:44 AM

Lamplighter Ummm... are you sure ? I'm... 05-25-2013, 10:11 AM

Clodfobble That just means someone else... 05-25-2013, 10:03 AM

Clodfobble Ah, 300-400 per year. I stand... 05-25-2013, 10:28 AM

Lamplighter International Journal of... 05-25-2013, 11:15 AM

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Griff To me, the concern is that... 05-25-2013, 12:23 PM

Lamplighter Griff, I absolutely agree... 05-25-2013, 01:40 PM

anonymous strep throat is just the most... 05-25-2013, 12:15 PM

Clodfobble And yet, despite receiving... 05-25-2013, 06:30 PM

anonymous prevnar addresses S.... 05-26-2013, 10:43 AM

Clodfobble Right, and thus does not... 05-26-2013, 11:57 AM

Happy Monkey Don't vaccinate for anything... 05-28-2013, 06:57 PM

Clodfobble *shrug* Or treat vaccination... 05-28-2013, 07:46 PM

Happy Monkey Vaccination is a... 05-28-2013, 08:10 PM

Clodfobble Some shots, such as tetanus... 05-28-2013, 08:44 PM

Aliantha The argument here is very... 05-29-2013, 10:21 PM

Happy Monkey And those options are used to... 05-28-2013, 09:10 PM

Happy Monkey Are you relatively unmoved by... 05-29-2013, 02:09 PM

Clodfobble And I believe their... 05-28-2013, 09:25 PM

Clodfobble Yes, I am. Because on a... 05-29-2013, 06:29 PM

Lamplighter Gee Clod, so many factual... 05-29-2013, 07:55 PM

tw Penned cattle are given mega... 05-30-2013, 01:46 AM

Clodfobble Sigh. It's not about giving... 05-29-2013, 08:04 PM

Lamplighter Clod, this is exactly what I... 05-30-2013, 08:31 AM

orthodoc Yes. Immunization precisely... 05-30-2013, 09:13 AM

Clodfobble And I sincerely hope that... 05-29-2013, 11:22 PM

glatt I've been reading, and I've... 05-30-2013, 07:27 AM

Undertoad If Clod is out I get to jump... 05-30-2013, 09:44 AM

glatt I have been following... 05-30-2013, 10:15 AM

More replies below current depth...

Clodfobble I sincerely hope that works... 05-30-2013, 07:22 AM

Aliantha We dont get flu shots either.... 05-30-2013, 08:28 AM

Undertoad Again, this thread's... 05-30-2013, 10:31 AM

Happy Monkey It's the only way to be sure. 05-30-2013, 11:57 AM

Clodfobble Not you personally. It's a... 05-30-2013, 02:21 PM

Aliantha And a cousin (second) who... 05-30-2013, 04:51 PM

Undertoad I could lock the thread if... 05-30-2013, 06:46 PM

Aliantha UT, if you're asking me, then... 05-30-2013, 07:28 PM

Undertoad Asking Clod honestly, because... 05-30-2013, 07:47 PM

Clodfobble No, Ali's right, the topic... 05-30-2013, 09:22 PM

footfootfoot Clod, if I may offer some... 05-30-2013, 11:59 PM

xoxoxoBruce There has to be an opt-out... 05-31-2013, 12:28 AM

orthodoc Just be sure that when you... 05-31-2013, 01:35 AM

tw Many make that statement but... 05-31-2013, 08:08 AM

DanaC There will always be a few... 05-31-2013, 02:00 AM

Undertoad I learn something new every... 05-31-2013, 08:41 AM

DanaC Interesting. That isn't what... 05-31-2013, 09:01 AM

monster Court Orders MMR... 10-11-2013, 08:37 PM

jimhelm Why don't they just get the... 10-11-2013, 09:02 PM

orthodoc Measles is a horrible... 10-11-2013, 10:35 PM

lumberjim SIDS is not a specific cause... 10-11-2013, 11:48 PM

orthodoc LJ, I was not calling you... 10-13-2013, 01:05 AM

DanaC As much as I agree with... 10-12-2013, 03:53 AM

Adak Eczema is caused by a genetic... 10-12-2013, 10:53 AM

Undertoad Why do you people hate... 10-12-2013, 09:37 AM

Clodfobble Heh. I actually thought you'd... 10-12-2013, 09:42 AM

glatt I was just wondering recently... 10-12-2013, 01:34 PM

DanaC I agree Adak. But I also... 10-12-2013, 11:46 AM

Clodfobble Oh I've been off gluten for... 10-12-2013, 03:54 PM

tw Polysaccharides (ie glucose,... 10-12-2013, 09:32 PM

lumberjim Back in 1999, our first... 10-13-2013, 09:50 AM

orthodoc It's not unlikely that she... 10-14-2013, 07:34 PM

Undertoad I would like to build my own... 10-13-2013, 10:26 AM

lumberjim This is the only part of your... 10-13-2013, 12:24 PM

Pico and ME Why not give these... 10-13-2013, 11:22 AM

Undertoad But is all medicine Playing... 10-13-2013, 12:50 PM

lumberjim I don't know. Do you still... 10-13-2013, 03:15 PM

Undertoad Then why'd ya bring it up? 10-13-2013, 06:08 PM

sexobon You just had to go and ask... 10-13-2013, 05:13 PM

monster I'm so sorry, clearly mybad,... 10-21-2013, 07:19 AM

Lamplighter Some really good news for a... 04-29-2015, 05:10 PM

lumberjim One more time. If they... 10-13-2013, 03:10 PM

tw Good. You have numbers. ... 10-15-2013, 07:06 AM

lumberjim If I was trying to convince... 10-15-2013, 11:06 AM

tw There were zero cases of... 10-15-2013, 11:09 PM

Pete Zicato Have you held your baby while... 10-15-2013, 10:02 AM

lumberjim You feeling alright? 10-15-2013, 10:07 AM

Pete Zicato Not bad, considering. I'm... 10-15-2013, 11:44 AM

lumberjim Because you said we're all... 10-13-2013, 07:30 PM

Undertoad You read that into what I... 10-13-2013, 07:36 PM

lumberjim Perhaps 10-13-2013, 07:43 PM

Aliantha Vaccination issues is a hot... 10-14-2013, 08:35 PM

lumberjim I'm good. 10-15-2013, 11:46 AM

lumberjim You're ignoring the timeline.... 10-15-2013, 11:56 PM

tw It was not my responsibility... 10-16-2013, 02:00 AM

lumberjim It's very clear to me why... 10-16-2013, 12:10 AM

DanaC This is getting way personal.... 10-16-2013, 03:58 AM

tw I made a distinction. ... 10-16-2013, 07:33 AM

DanaC When dealing in abstracts and... 10-16-2013, 07:45 AM

tw You are reading into that... 10-16-2013, 08:11 AM

DanaC I didn't say you were being... 10-16-2013, 08:14 AM

tw Which is really my point, is... 10-16-2013, 08:19 AM

DanaC You misunderstand me. I... 10-16-2013, 09:40 AM

tw You may think so. But read... 10-16-2013, 04:43 PM

lumberjim I didn't ignore your request... 10-16-2013, 09:15 AM

glatt Thanks for the compliment.... 10-16-2013, 09:50 AM

xoxoxoBruce We make thousands of... 10-16-2013, 11:12 AM

tw And when we do not have... 10-16-2013, 04:38 PM

Undertoad I am a former big-L... 10-16-2013, 10:49 AM

lumberjim I am not sure what gave you... 10-16-2013, 12:04 PM

orthodoc I'm late to the conversation;... 10-16-2013, 04:51 PM

Clodfobble Encephalitis is a known... 10-16-2013, 04:58 PM

orthodoc LJ, I apologize for losing my... 10-17-2013, 10:09 PM

tw First, this is exactly what I... 10-18-2013, 08:18 AM

Undertoad While we wait for Ortho's... 10-16-2013, 12:09 PM

Happy Monkey And Jenny McCarthy's? 10-16-2013, 12:11 PM

lumberjim Ok, you're gonna act like... 10-16-2013, 12:44 PM

Undertoad Act like what now? 10-16-2013, 12:55 PM

orthodoc The MMR vaccine is a live... 10-16-2013, 05:11 PM

Clodfobble Of course. And risk vs.... 10-16-2013, 06:30 PM

orthodoc The link I provided above is... 10-16-2013, 06:55 PM

Lamplighter Using death to assess risks... 10-16-2013, 08:10 PM

Griff http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/va... 10-16-2013, 08:14 PM

Aliantha We are given an info sheet... 10-16-2013, 09:18 PM

orthodoc The seizure mentioned in the... 10-17-2013, 06:10 AM

Undertoad Clod said only about a week... 10-17-2013, 11:45 PM

jimhelm This level of emotion? ... 10-18-2013, 11:01 AM

tw Your post is chock full of... 10-18-2013, 06:04 PM

lumberjim you're a big fat liar a... 10-18-2013, 07:20 PM

Aliantha I have a flail somewhere... 10-18-2013, 12:09 AM

orthodoc UT, I also challenge because... 10-18-2013, 12:47 AM

Clodfobble TW, you're adorable. Don't... 10-18-2013, 08:24 AM

tw Jenny McCarthy, at a minimum,... 10-18-2013, 08:48 AM

Clodfobble Can you give me numbers, tw,... 10-18-2013, 09:51 AM

Lamplighter I realize the intent of your... 10-18-2013, 10:34 AM

tw There is no actual number... 10-18-2013, 05:55 PM

Undertoad Not only did I not know, I... 10-18-2013, 11:52 AM

xoxoxoBruce It's even tougher when the... 10-18-2013, 05:34 PM

orthodoc There's definitely a... 10-18-2013, 05:46 PM

xoxoxoBruce With seven or eight million... 10-18-2013, 05:57 PM

Lamplighter My first impulse is to ask if... 10-18-2013, 07:11 PM

lumberjim MAN, you're just not getting... 10-18-2013, 03:19 PM

sexobon Don't forget to get yourself... 10-18-2013, 03:51 PM

lumberjim Yes. ... that and a helmet. ... 10-18-2013, 04:37 PM

Aliantha Jim, i havent done the study... 10-18-2013, 06:53 PM

lumberjim yes, of course I do. It's... 10-18-2013, 07:19 PM

Clodfobble Lamplighter found a number,... 10-18-2013, 08:59 PM

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Lamplighter In the interest of full... 10-18-2013, 10:38 PM

xoxoxoBruce Because I've read 4 different... 10-19-2013, 12:10 AM

sexobon Childhood Pertussis... 10-19-2013, 01:27 AM

tw Described are more examples... 10-19-2013, 09:16 AM

Lamplighter "spin doctoring" and... 10-19-2013, 09:57 AM

sexobon Now Clod, no need to be... 10-18-2013, 09:33 PM

lumberjim He sits on a throne of lies 10-18-2013, 09:40 PM

wolf We were given a choice this... 10-19-2013, 02:14 AM

Undertoad http://www.jennymccarthybodyco... 10-19-2013, 02:16 AM

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sexobon Just say: Use my Hello Kitty... 10-19-2013, 02:29 AM

wolf Oh, how perfect! 10-19-2013, 02:45 AM

Aliantha I wish they had a vaccine for... 10-19-2013, 07:52 AM

orthodoc There's one - a vaccine... 10-19-2013, 08:44 AM

lumberjim I was just looking at the... 10-19-2013, 09:29 AM

tw Polio has an interesting... 10-19-2013, 10:11 AM

orthodoc You're right, LJ - smallpox... 10-19-2013, 10:26 AM

lumberjim Oh. ..I was thinking of a... 10-19-2013, 09:51 AM

orthodoc Hmm ... just thinking I... 10-19-2013, 10:52 AM

orthodoc The College of Physicians of... 10-19-2013, 12:34 PM

sexobon Tw made a statement: Clod... 10-19-2013, 01:59 PM

xoxoxoBruce Me too... stab all the... 10-19-2013, 03:53 PM

Lamplighter The "blame the reader" tactic... 10-19-2013, 04:01 PM

tw Was answered. Actual... 10-19-2013, 04:34 PM

sexobon The mothers can be vaccinated... 10-19-2013, 02:02 PM

orthodoc Just to clarify, while that... 10-19-2013, 02:15 PM

lumberjim The responses to Clod's... 10-19-2013, 02:16 PM

sexobon Maybe tw and Jenny can do a... 10-19-2013, 02:25 PM

lumberjim Oh, thanks for taking the... 10-19-2013, 03:47 PM

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lumberjim shut up, tw. you ignore... 10-19-2013, 05:14 PM

tw "lumberjim you ignorant... 10-20-2013, 09:19 AM

sexobon I'm glad you can see your... 10-19-2013, 05:26 PM

Aliantha Well i learned something... 10-19-2013, 06:22 PM

Lamplighter LJ, if you go back to the... 10-19-2013, 07:10 PM

lumberjim But they list deaths. ... so... 10-19-2013, 08:23 PM

Lamplighter LJ, I am reading the chart... 10-19-2013, 08:53 PM

sexobon I got the impression that it... 10-19-2013, 10:08 PM

orthodoc The chart represents lawsuits... 10-19-2013, 10:20 PM

Griff Did you miss-type this? I'd... 10-20-2013, 08:21 AM

orthodoc Even when common side effects... 10-20-2013, 02:22 PM

lumberjim https://groups.google.com/foru... 10-19-2013, 10:42 PM

Lamplighter Probably NOT ! I've spent... 10-20-2013, 03:32 PM

Lamplighter Well, I am surprised... I... 10-20-2013, 04:30 PM

orthodoc At this time of night,... 10-19-2013, 10:56 PM

Big Sarge tw - sometimes you just like... 10-20-2013, 02:18 PM

sexobon Just funnin' 10-20-2013, 03:54 PM

Clodfobble Or sometimes they don't... 10-20-2013, 02:28 PM

Griff Yeah, in my experience they... 10-20-2013, 02:52 PM

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