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Old 01-04-2004, 09:43 AM   #32
Radar
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No problem. There are a bunch of idiots out there who are stupid enough to believe that ONLY the Supreme Court makes this decision, but the Supreme Court themselves said in Marbury vs. Madison that we the citizens (aka the bosses of the government) make that decision for ourselves. To claim otherwise is ludicrous.

If Congress suddenly decided to pass the no more abortion bill which said girls under the age of 18 must all be forcefully sterilized it would not have to even be looked at by the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional in its face. It would be unconstitutional the moment it was signed. Even if the Supreme Court never made a decision or heard a case involving the forced sterilization law, it would still be unconstitutional and nobody would have to follow it. Only an idiot with no comprehension what-so-ever of government would suggest it was constitutional until the USSC decided on it. Only the worst scumbag would suggest we actually start following through with the sterilizing while we wait for the Supreme Court to hear a case on it.

The Supreme Court is made up of people, not of magicians. Laws don't magically become constitutional or unconstitutional because they say so. Laws are constitutional or unconstitutional the moment they're created whether or not the Supreme Court ever gets around to hearing cases on them. The Supreme Court's job is limited to comparing new laws, court cases, etc. to the Constitution to see if they fit properly and settling disputes between states and NOTHING else. The Supreme Court's job doesn't include "interpreting" or "defining" the Constituion, which doesn't need interpretation since it's written in English.

Let's say I'm sent to go grocery shopping for my wife. She lists 1 lb of Ground Round, Butter, Turkey Bacon, and Wheat Bread and I'm told never to deviate from the list much like government is told never to deviate from the Constitution. My job (much like the Supreme Court's job) isn't to "interpret" the list, but merely to follow it. When I go to the store, I don't decide what goes on the list, I don't change the language of the list, and I don't do anything other than compare an item to the list to see if it matches. If I hold see Chocolate Cake on the shelf but don't see it on the list, I know not to get it. In fact even if I see White Bread, Pork Bacon, Ground Chuck, or Margarine in the store, they don't qualify.

I am not given discretion to deviate from the list and neither is the Supreme Court.

So once again, I'll repeat this so you can get it through your head.

EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN DECIDES FOR THEMSELVES WHETHER A LAW IS CONSTITUTIONAL OR NOT AND THAT LAW MUST NOT NECESSARILY BE DECIDED ON BY THE SUPREME COURT TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, PERIOD.

Like the Supreme Court, citizens do not have discretion to define or interpret the Constitution. They can not "decide" that murder is constitutional and follow through on it, or to steal from others because they've "interpreted" the Constitution to allow it. The entire federal government is here for one and only one purpose, to defend our person, rights, and property from tresspass, theft, and non-consensual harm whether that be from each other, or from outside forces. Citizens, unlike the Supreme Court, hold the power to actually change the Constitution since it is the citizens who hold 100% of the power and are the masters of government (our servant).

The Federal government's legitimate role does not include charity, education, healthcare, retirement, imperialism, spying on Americans, limiting the rights of citizens, etc.
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