Think about this...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Zathris

Ok. But what do you think about these two stories specifically?

What about them, they unfortunately are not rare. If they were we'd just write them off to freak accidents, acts of god, or whatever.

Also, what "pole" are you talking about?

That tells me you haven't read what I posted in this thread, or the thread I linked.
Therefore I have to assume your agenda is to skim replies, looking hosannas from people to agree with you.