Donald Trump can suck our collective dicks

[BigV]

Big Sarge. it saddens me to hear you speak so blithely about "Yeah, just kill their families". You love your family, they're precious to you. I can't understand how anyone can dehumanize the people in this scenario to the point at which the deaths of the families of the "others" would be any less atrocious than the deaths of their own family members. I doubt anyone here lost a family member to the violence in San Bernardino recently. Yet, many around us are apoplectic about the need to take swift and sure action, including killing the family members of ... of... somebody.

Think about how much distance there is between you and the people who died and compare that to how strongly you feel that killing any-fucking-one who stands between you and the person you feel's responsible. Big distance, big reaction. And it stands to reason were the distance smaller, like someone in your direct circle or family, that the reaction would be even greater. How can someone disagree with that? They can't. And yet, it is seen as a path to peace (!!!) to kill the family members of those "others".

How can you explain that it would not incite "them" to even greater reactions, just as you are whipped up by the deaths of your fellows? Death begets death. Violence begets violence. It is a warmongering, hateful, profiteering fantasy to suggest that we can kill our way to peace. It is exactly this kind of attitude and action that provides them motivation in the first place. This is what makes more terrorists more active. Only stupid people think otherwise.

Do you have any evidence that they can be intimidated? Frightened into cooperation? Do they lack resolve? And say you *could* kill all of them, albeit in and amongst the civilian carnage. How can you justify the deaths of all the innocents?

You can't.

Killing innocent people to bring about political change is what terrorists do, it's the fucking definition of terrorists. Suggesting that we should kill their families should be treated with the same kind of response that a 14 year old (brown) boy who brings a clock he made to school. Arrest, incitement to violence, making terroristic threats.