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Old 06-10-2019, 10:11 PM   #10
Undertoad
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The Kling point comes down to this, for me;

When you study basic Physics, you get questions like,

A ball will run along a 20 foot track, which sits at a five degree angle. Assuming the ball is perfectly round, the track is perfectly straight, and there is zero friction, how long will it take for the ball to reach the bottom of the track?

In Physics 101, you can say "only solve for gravity" because you're learning about gravity, one particular force. But in the real world, that won't tell you anything.

In the real world, you can't say "only view it from the freedom/coercion angle" because the problem you are trying to solve is... I suppose... the best approach to human cooperation, into its yet undetermined future.

Culture. The foundation of morality. Evolved human nature. All that has a lot of fuckin' variables!! Humanity runs deeper than any of us knows.

If someone came up to you and claimed to have that solved to nine decimal places, wouldn't you be skeptical? You should be, there are a lot of people who make that claim.
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