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Old 08-16-2004, 09:34 PM   #1
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...having a dui in your past doesn't make one incapable of operating in a high stress, critical position. it simply means that someone made a bad decision. to equate that with child molestation is a little over the top.
I am not equating the two. I merely meant that if Mari could find it in her heart to empathize with a child molester surely she could forgive a DUI. MmmmKay?
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Old 08-16-2004, 10:01 PM   #2
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Old 08-16-2004, 10:05 PM   #3
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I am not equating the two. I merely meant that if Mari could find it in her heart to empathize with a child molester surely she could forgive a DUI. MmmmKay?
Sure, I can forgive a DUI. But do I want to make him a designated driver? Anyhow, this time the joke's on me. Its what I get for trying to research something while at the same time console a friend about his love life. He went out with the girl in question about an hour ago, and I sure as hell hope he didn't pay any attention to the advise I gave him, given my batting average here on this one!
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:27 PM   #4
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DUI is a piddling little offense. Bush's was about as piddling as a DUI got back then, too -- BAC of 0.10. One such is nothing to base a hiring decision on (except perhaps for a driving job), not even if it were last year rather than nearly 30 years ago. It's nothing to quit drinking over, either.
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:02 AM   #5
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DUI is a piddling little offense. Bush's was about as piddling as a DUI got back then, too -- BAC of 0.10. One such is nothing to base a hiring decision on (except perhaps for a driving job), not even if it were last year rather than nearly 30 years ago. It's nothing to quit drinking over, either.
A DUI should give one considerable pause. Its a very serious offense and in my state, a second one brings manadatory jail time and loss of your driver's license for x amount of time. According to a study done by the state of Colorado, about 55% of DUI offenders are problem drunk drivers - they just haven't been caught all the other times they drank and drove.

How many other times do you suppose George Jr. might have got pulled over and was let go as a courtesy because of who he was? Especially when given the fact that G. Jr. finally DID admit to being alcoholic 10 years later after almost killing himself and a friend in the course of a drunken plane ride with George in charge in the cockpit?

A DUI should make ANYONE look very seriously at their drinking pattern.
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Old 08-18-2004, 12:57 PM   #6
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A DUI should give one considerable pause. Its a very serious offense and in my state, a second one brings manadatory jail time and loss of your driver's license for x amount of time.
Because the MADDWomen have had their way, it has punishment way out of proportion with its seriousness.

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According to a study done by the state of Colorado, about 55% of DUI offenders are problem drunk drivers - they just haven't been caught all the other times they drank and drove.
So, even taking that for granted, the other 45% are just average Joes who got nailed for one beer too many (which could be just one beer)
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:21 PM   #7
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Because the MADDWomen have had their way, it has punishment way out of proportion with its seriousness.
Many drivers on the road don't drive very well even when stone sober. I consider drunk driving reckless endangerment with a lethal weapon. It's very nearly a textbook definition of irresponsibility.
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Old 08-18-2004, 09:35 PM   #8
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Fine, but exceeding .08 doesn't make you a drunk driver.
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Old 08-19-2004, 09:42 AM   #9
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Many drivers on the road don't drive very well even when stone sober. I consider drunk driving reckless endangerment with a lethal weapon. It's very nearly a textbook definition of irresponsibility.
So if Billy Bob drives better after 3 beers than Jimbo does sober, why is it Billy Bob committing "reckless endangerment"?
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