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Old 09-28-2004, 08:18 PM   #1
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Awww, now. I have to respectfully disagree, CW. I didn't say ALL her posts were contrary and assholish. What I said was she seems to disagree as often as she can. Think of it in terms of "all you can eat" vs. "all it is possible to eat". Everyone has to give it a rest occasionally.

And I agree, it's possible that some folks might find a screeching kid more annoying than a barking dog. Humans are hardwired to respond to a crying baby; that's how they get attention and thus survive. It wouldn't do much good to have a soothing, low-toned chime go off when a baby needs something. It's also possible that some people find a grown adult who's supposed to have some sense bitching about children making noise, which is what their supposed to do, extremely irritating.

It's not possible to avoid children unless you stay home - that is a fact. You're going to see brats sometimes outside when you're getting into the car, when you're in the grocery store, at the bank, at 99% of other places we all have to go. Like I said about the stinky guy, the tacky dressers, and other people I find distasteful, it's impossible to avoid. Sure, you can go to the bar and not see them while you're there, but that doesn't mean you won't have to stand in line behind them and their parents at the ATM before you get there. They're everywhere, unless you're a hermit with home food delivery who never requires medical treatment, you're going to be "exposed" to them.

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Old 09-28-2004, 08:38 PM   #2
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It's not possible to avoid children unless you stay home - that is a fact.
I dunno...unless I have really super child-avoiding luck, it's possible. It's not very often I get into a situation where there's a screaming child and I'm out and about as much as the next person. The only times I run into kids screaming unattended or (in my opinion) poorly-attended are in open places where a lower noise level isn't encouraged...like a grocery store. In my local library on the other hand, kids are promptly taken out or asked to be removed from the building. I rarely see small children brought into banks and when they are they're quiet or they're better encouraged to hush than they'd be in a grocery store. Maybe I just have some kind of luck avoiding the Crying Child. Maybe some people have a better time of it than others.

Sure, the human animal is hardwired to respond to a crying child, but it still doesn't mean I have to like it or want to hear it. Humans are hardwired to simply have children, but it doesn't mean everyone has to like the idea. I probably should have added that I have little problem with a crying child if it's a relative of mine or the child of a friend. I'm sure if I have a child, its cries won't bother me so much either. Or, if it's a crying child because he's lost or abandoned, I can put my pet peeve aside. It's the strange children that get on my nerves.
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Old 09-29-2004, 08:30 AM   #3
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I didn't say ALL her posts were contrary and assholish. What I said was she seems to disagree as often as she can.
Well, technically, if, like you say, I try to disagree as often as possible, I'm sure I could find something to disagree about in every single post on this forum. If you'd read any of my other posts before ripping my head off, you would have logically come to that conclusion as well. And BTW, people (like you) tend to complain about traits in others that they see in themselves that really bother them. I've noticed your posts often tend to be hostile, biting and just plain rude in some cases, but do I choose to single you out and whine about it? No, I just ignore your silly posts. Like I will do in the future.

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It's not possible to avoid children unless you stay home - that is a fact.
Uhhh, wrong again. In fact, I had a lovely dinner out with my boyfriend on Saturday night. We went to a nice restaurant, and there was not a child in the place. Would I have minded if there was? No, not if they were behaving themselves. We are leaving for vacation on Saturday to the Caribbean, at an adults-only resort. Will there be children there? Of course not. So I'll go about my life, and you can go about yours, changing poopy diapers and listening to the screeching of children, the sound you seem to love so much. I'll have a nice frosty tropical drink on the beach for you. Maybe two.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:06 AM   #4
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... If you'd read any of my other posts before ripping my head off,
take your own advice, and read and understand whose posting what before you pipe up there, lassie. MY kid's the one's who's biting, and frankly, case and perth sound like EXCELLENT parents to me, from the limited amount i've been exposed to them here in the last couple years. <-- not a typo. it's a good thing you aren't having kids yet, because it seems to me you need to develop your sense of patience, understanding, and ability to see things from other peoples points of view a whole lot more yet before you procreate.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:50 AM   #5
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take your own advice, and read and understand whose posting what before you pipe up there, lassie. MY kid's the one's who's biting
Actually, it's YOU that needs to go back and read the posts. Perth also mentioned in this thread that his son bites, too. If you would like me to post a link to that, I'd be happy to do so. Please be more careful before you start slingin' the mud, OK, honey?

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it's a good thing you aren't having kids yet, because it seems to me you need to develop your sense of patience, understanding, and ability to see things from other peoples points of view a whole lot more yet before you procreate.
Don't worry, I won't be doing any procreating--I'll leave that up to the "experts" like you. Funny, it's the parents who posted here that immediately flipped out and started swearing and name-calling. To me, that spells a lack of patience and and anger issues. Are the kids wearing you guys a little thin, maybe? Maybe that's something to think about.
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:21 AM   #6
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How is it going Labrat? Have you found things getting better? Tried anything different?
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Old 09-29-2004, 01:04 PM   #7
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Actually, it's YOU that needs to go back and read the posts. Perth also mentioned in this thread that his son bites, too. If you would like me to post a link to that, I'd be happy to do so. Please be more careful before you start slingin' the mud, OK, honey?
Perth mentioned that his son *use to* bite. It was mentioned to help address what the thread was originally about. Because you don't have experience with children, you wouldn't know that most children go through that stage (that I have heard of). And what is with the "honey" and "sweetie" stuff? Does your new internet man know you have so many "honey"s?

Labrat, great job with the progress. It's nice to see parents like you around. I hope things continue to go well with that.
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Old 09-29-2004, 01:40 PM   #8
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Perth mentioned that his son *use to* bite.
Not that it's any of my business (and I'm sure you'll all jump on the chance to point that out to me) but the child you are referring to in this thread is perth's an not yours? Sorry, I'm totally confused now and just trying to get my facts straight. And BTW, the "used to" part about biting is not the way his post reads...

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And what is with the "honey" and "sweetie" stuff? Does your new internet man know you have so many "honey"s?
I live in the South, and although I'm not a native, I've picked up some figures of speech from the region. It's not considered offensive here to call someone "honey," nor is it considered a pick-up line. My boyfriend is secure enough with himself and our relationship not to be threatened by a silly figure of speech.
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