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View Poll Results: How do you feel about BDSM? | |||
Fully support BDSM in all ways. |
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3 | 42.86% |
Support BDSM only in private between consenting adults. |
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4 | 57.14% |
Support BDSM only in someone else's city. |
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0 | 0% |
No! I do not support BDSM at all. |
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0 | 0% |
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Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
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501 Armstrong St Phila Pa 19144 www.phillyfetish.com (the website is back up) 215 438 1946 btsphilly@aol.com ok so this is what i will be doing in the next few days....plus what i need other people to do to support us....if you call anyone or write letters be brief and to the point...dont give any info on anything you know about the club...dont talk about people or what goes on there specifically....just give your opinions and feelings and be really nice.....stress its a private club for consenting adults ...no alcohol is allowed....and everything is Safe, Sane and Consensual....if you send faxes or snail mail and you are comfortable with it put it on letterhead....you DO NOT have to use your real name....send me copies of anything you send that is written and let me know if you call anyone. so far i have talked to several individuals from several groups; Pennsylvania Lesbian and Gay Task Force ...i sent them an accounting of all that has happened and they have been a wealth of info for me. on monday i will contact Stacy Sobel and Tiffany Palmer from the Center for Lesbian and Gay Civil Rights looking for advice, action and possible legal help. I believe that is where Andrew Parks is also and he has already contacted me offering help. i am supposed to send a 2 line letter to Rep Myers and Rep Evans asking for clarification on whether the rumors were true that they gave the order to L&I to come to the club and find a reason to shut us down. you can help by writing letters to them or calling their offices expressing support for the club; Hon John Myers 5847 Germantown Ave Phila Pa 19144 215 849 6896 fax; 215 560 1824 Hon Dwight Evans 7174 Ogontz Ave Phila Pa 19138 215 549 0220 fax; 215 549 8965 i will contact Larry Frankel at the Pa ACLU on monday i will write a letter to Sylvester Johnston, Acting Police Commisioner, and Lt Greene, Vice Unit, detailing what we perceived as unacceptable negative attitudes from some of their officers directed at members of the club related to their status as a sexual minority....overall their officers were courteous and really should be thanked....we had a problem with a few of them and that will be dealt with....we will try and get them to participate in some sort of BDSM and sexual minority sensitivity program....does anyone know of one that other groups in other cities have used? i COULD file a complaint with Hector Soto , police civilian review committee however i am going to hold off on that until the LGBT liason to the police dept (who we met with today) meets with Officer Taino and discusses this issue. I will also hold off on filing a lawsuit until we hear from the liason. We will be meeting with a representative from Councilman DiCiccos office....i am trying to set up a meeting between us for tomorrow to discuss the L&I issue...DiCicco is the city council liason to L&I and also writing the transgendered legislation for the city and is considered LGBT friendly...the goal here is to get the club open without filing lawsuits asap. it is our contention that we have been in compliance with L&I and anything else they want us to do will be done but in the mean time we should be allowed to open and operate. if that doesnt get us open immediately we will file a lawsuit. the landlord wants to file a lawsuit against the city immediately to get us open.....i am supporting him in anything he wants to do as the landlord....he is working with us and will make sure violations are taken care of properly....he is also amenable to helping us out financially speaking as we cant really pay the bills right now if we arent open....however we are going to do everything we can to make sure he does get paid rent and utilities....he is an old man (sorry harold but you are older than God) and this building is his only income and he depends on it. we will contact L&I on tuesday (at their request) to find out what the violations are....if you are a licensed pa electrician we will need help with the permit and work....we have lots of volunteers to help with anything else that needs to be done....anyone who wants to help volunteer should contact the volunteer coordinator at beth@bethx.com i will be giving an interview with the Phila Inquirer and the Phila Daily News asap i will not be talking to anyone from the tv press unless they do a crappy report...they can read about us in the paper. i have been referred to several attorneys to see about getting representation; Hetznecker, Rudolfski and Kairys, Larry Krasner, Andi Erba and Gloria Guard...if you know any of these attorneys and can use your relationship with them to encourage them to help us pro bono please do. we need to write letters to the district attorneys office THANKING her for her progressive and enlightened attitude towards private members only sex positive clubs in the city that are operating legally...like BTS....and encouragng her to help enlighten other city officials. District Attorney Lynne Abraham 1421 Arch St Phila, Pa 19102 215 686 8000 fax 215 563 0047 da_webmail@phila.gov we need to encourage Councilman DiCicco to support BTS and allow us to reopen asap....mentioning that 40 gun toting law enforcement officials sent to check on wiring is overkill....and thanking him for supporting sexual minorities....tell him how important BTS is to you....that its our community center as well as a safe place for us .... Councilman Frank DiCicco City Hall Room 332 Phila, Pa 19107 215 686 3458 215 686 3459 fax 215 686 1931 We need to raise some money while we are closed to pay the bills we already have and the new ones we are about to have...donations can be sent to; BTS P O Box 150 Pennsauken, NJ 08110 you can use PayPal sent to btsphilly@aol.com if you want to have your donation be creditied towards a new membership or a Foundership we will do that....just let us know that....memberships are $50 per person for a lifetime membership....$35 per person if part of a couple or a member of another dues paying alternative lifestyle organization....$1000 for a Foundership which means you get into all BTS events free forever plus other perks. also dont forget we need to support NCSF (our raffle friday night got interrupted and we had great prizes too....we will continiue it when we reopen dont you worry).....become a member or send them a donation if you can....www.ncsfreedom.org if you see anything in the media please let me know right away if you hear anything on call in radio shows let me know right away and try and get the phone #....feel free to call in if you feel you can have a positive effect on the discussion. if you were at the club on friday night and heard or saw anything you feel i should know send me the info asap....especially if it pertains to how our members were treated. if you need to talk to me and its an emergency and you cant get thru on the club phone, call mikes cell phone at 609 760 1749 thanks guys ![]() Anna and Michael any other suggestions of things to do please let us know and by the way L&I means Licenses and Inspections and ATF is Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (none of which are allowed at the club) |
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