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Old 12-08-2011, 09:33 AM   #1
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Harry Morgan of Dragnet and MASH fame died yesterday.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:35 AM   #2
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Harry Morgan of Dragnet and MASH fame died yesterday.
I liked his movies and TV shows but I lost all respect for him after he was arrested for beating his wife.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:41 AM   #3
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I liked his movies and TV shows but I lost all respect for him after he was arrested for beating his wife.
I hadn't heard that. A good reminder that actors are not their roles.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:38 AM   #4
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:50 AM   #5
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I found reports of that, but not a lot of other information. He was 82 at the time. I'm not finding much, but this comment on a news board.

I hate domestic violence, and I rail against it all the time, as you should know. But I also don't care for peasants with pitchforks, who hear news blurbs and label the world and everyone in it as the evil devil.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertai...-on-mash-dies/

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Comment to the people who bring up Harry Morgan’s domestic violence case: he was 82 at the time. I don’t know if he had any problems with dementia or Alzheimer’s or issues with depression, all of which are possibilities in a man his age. He was married for 45 years to his first wife, who passed away in 1985; he remained married to his second wife at the time of his death. To me this certainly argues that whatever the situation was at the time of the event, it was resolved in a way that kept him and his wife together. It is worth noting that the charges were dropped when he completed a counseling program, and there were no other occasions involving violence in the relationship.

Having cared for an elderly parent, and observed the elderly parents of my friends and relatives, I have to say that it isn’t that unusual for changes in personality to take place in someone as old as Harry Morgan was. Excluding outright dementia and Alzheimer’s, there are a lot of elderly people who develop depression and experience anger and frustration at the onset of aging-related problems: memory issues, physical disabilities, sometimes pain from physical problems like arthritis. This can really be a problem, especially where the person who is experiencing the problems wants to deny that they exist or are affecting him/her.

I think that it’s very unfair to brand Harry Morgan as a “wife-beater” on the basis of a single incident that happened when he was 82 years old, especially without knowing any details of the situation. And especially when he and his wife remained married 15 years later.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:06 AM   #6
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It's very unusual for the comments section of a news story to contain such a thoughtful comment.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:25 AM   #7
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In all the stories I read and also what i remember from when it happened and got reported, he and his wife had gotten into an arguement at a party and when they got home, he hit her several times and caused several cuts, bruises and bumps.

If he had alzheimers, it was never reported. But having had a father who was abusive, my tolerance for abusers for any reason is slim to none.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:27 AM   #8
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:29 AM   #9
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Thanks.
You're welcome.

OK, back to the actor. Inherit the Wind? Hello! Of course one of the best films ever.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:47 AM   #10
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You're welcome.

OK, back to the actor. Inherit the Wind? Hello! Of course one of the best films ever.
Indeed. Just ask Elspode.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:28 AM   #11
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I had a different abuser in my life, and I know what you mean.

I think everything just disappoints me lately, and things that seem good are often not, so I keep trying to think there's more to it than I know. Cock-eyed optimist, budding pessimist.

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Very sad this morning to learn of the death of Christopher Hitchens, although we knew it was coming and he had been ill for a long time. His awesome rhetoric and obvious brilliance were absolutely inspiring. This morning I have re-read the account of when he was attacked in Beirut for defacing the sign of a nationalist party there whose symbol is a stylized swastika. Said Hitchens later, if one sees a swastika, it is one's duty to deface it. He has defaced more intellectual swastikas than anyone else.

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Old 12-16-2011, 02:57 PM   #13
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RIP Mr. Hitchens. A great author.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:36 PM   #14
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He had a great mind, but as with many great minds his provided cover for lesser minds with lesser agendas.
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Kim Jong Il? I did not know he was sick!
I am not bummed either
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