Fuck France(tm) again...

Beestie · 02-23-2005, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

It's fun to deride the french, and easy too. I mean, what are they going to do about it?

Surrender?

Troubleshooter · 02-23-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

Surrender?

Sweet...

russotto · 02-23-2005, 09:21 AM

So, let France start their own effort of digitizing volumes which reflect a French world view.

Of course, if they want anyone else to read them, they'll have to translate into English...

iamthewalrus109 · 02-23-2005, 09:52 AM

Although it sounds good, the google effort is a proprietary one and will be organized as such. The attack on Western virtues should address this issue. The project in France is based on learned principles and academics. The Google effort is indicactive of the hustle, bustle, lets get some good PR for our company type of deal, which in the end I can assure you will fall short of greatness. As a historian, librarian, and researcher I greet Google's effort with a suspicious eye. Seems like a few burnt out academics,and a whole lot of tech people will just start throwing up whatever won't be copywrited and call it a miracle of modern technology and go to town on a big PR campaign for this new "public" company Google. I rarely agree with the French, but in this case I don't think it's a Chirac vs. Bush type of angst, I think it stems from the fact that the people at the French library know that this effort will undermine actual academic efforts to reposit material for use. Google represents a fast food approach, and all should be wary of its credibility as it goes forward.

-Walrus

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2005, 09:03 PM

I suspect that the Google effort involves puting up anything they can get their hands on. I would prefer that to someone deciding what I should read and what I shouldn't, for my own good.

02-23-2005, 09:52 AM	#4
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	Bottom line: Western efforts are based on propreitary response Although it sounds good, the google effort is a proprietary one and will be organized as such. The attack on Western virtues should address this issue. The project in France is based on learned principles and academics. The Google effort is indicactive of the hustle, bustle, lets get some good PR for our company type of deal, which in the end I can assure you will fall short of greatness. As a historian, librarian, and researcher I greet Google's effort with a suspicious eye. Seems like a few burnt out academics,and a whole lot of tech people will just start throwing up whatever won't be copywrited and call it a miracle of modern technology and go to town on a big PR campaign for this new "public" company Google. I rarely agree with the French, but in this case I don't think it's a Chirac vs. Bush type of angst, I think it stems from the fact that the people at the French library know that this effort will undermine actual academic efforts to reposit material for use. Google represents a fast food approach, and all should be wary of its credibility as it goes forward. -Walrus

02-23-2005, 09:03 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I suspect that the Google effort involves puting up anything they can get their hands on. I would prefer that to someone deciding what I should read and what I shouldn't, for my own good. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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02-23-2005, 09:21 AM	#3
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	So, let France start their own effort of digitizing volumes which reflect a French world view. Of course, if they want anyone else to read them, they'll have to translate into English...

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