Chemical Dependency/Illness or weakness

Brown Thrasher Chemical Dependency/Illness... 03-05-2005, 11:56 PM

wolf Well, yeah. Of course... 03-06-2005, 12:24 AM

Brown Thrasher I see your point. However,... 03-06-2005, 01:09 AM

wolf First, as we all learned in... 03-06-2005, 01:22 AM

Brown Thrasher [QUOTE=wolf]First, as we all... 03-06-2005, 02:49 AM

Clodfobble Even if you want to claim... 03-06-2005, 09:16 AM

Brown Thrasher I did not say there was a... 03-06-2005, 11:57 AM

zippyt I don't know if this is what... 03-06-2005, 12:50 PM

xoxoxoBruce I guess caffeine doesn't... 03-06-2005, 02:33 PM

Trilby I don't hold with the disease... 03-06-2005, 10:49 AM

Trilby I think Terry McGovern,... 03-06-2005, 11:32 AM

Undertoad Alcohol use is a net positive... 03-06-2005, 11:36 AM

Trilby I don't suppose that is meant... 03-06-2005, 02:36 PM

Brown Thrasher Sorry, but I don't see the... 03-06-2005, 06:43 PM

Trilby [QUOTE=Brown Thrasher]. There... 03-06-2005, 03:00 PM

Brown Thrasher Such a contoversial issue, as... 03-06-2005, 09:27 PM

wolf Cellar debates rarely result... 03-07-2005, 12:38 AM

xoxoxoBruce Go back and read your own... 03-07-2005, 04:30 AM

Brown Thrasher I agree there are few... 03-07-2005, 09:53 AM

Brett\'s Honey I totally agree that alcohol... 03-06-2005, 10:52 PM

Happy Monkey While that is evidence, it's... 03-07-2005, 08:53 AM

Brett\'s Honey [QUOTE] When I wrote this... 03-07-2005, 09:58 PM

Trilby [QUOTE=Brett's Honey] ... 03-07-2005, 10:39 PM

Brett\'s Honey They get two days a week out.... 03-07-2005, 11:54 PM

Brown Thrasher I don't know how old your son... 03-08-2005, 01:58 PM

xoxoxoBruce You're mixing apples and... 03-08-2005, 08:43 PM

Brown Thrasher You seem to know something... 03-08-2005, 09:32 PM

xoxoxoBruce He's not addicted at all. As... 03-09-2005, 06:49 PM

Brown Thrasher A little contradiction. You... 03-09-2005, 09:23 PM

busterb An alcoholic/addict will... 03-10-2005, 10:25 PM

Brown Thrasher Your statement does not make... 03-10-2005, 10:48 PM

xoxoxoBruce To clarify, he gave up drugs... 03-12-2005, 09:40 AM

Brown Thrasher Bless him. A.A. really works... 03-12-2005, 09:59 PM

OnyxCougar Is is a social issue or is it... 03-14-2005, 06:25 PM

Troubleshooter It's both, and more. Some... 03-14-2005, 08:01 PM

Brown Thrasher I agree with most of what you... 03-15-2005, 07:52 PM

Troubleshooter Thanks The whole AA thing... 03-15-2005, 08:06 PM

Brown Thrasher Addiction is a biological,... 03-15-2005, 07:41 PM

404Error I don't think there is that... 03-08-2005, 10:40 PM

Brown Thrasher I"m glad you said that you... 03-08-2005, 10:55 PM

Brett\'s Honey [I wasn't very clear in my... 03-09-2005, 09:58 AM

Brown Thrasher My suggestion to you is... 03-09-2005, 05:08 PM

wolf Busted. UDS doesn't test... 03-09-2005, 02:21 PM

Brown Thrasher Thanks, Wolf I'M glad it was... 03-09-2005, 04:26 PM

404Error There may not be more drugs... 03-09-2005, 04:48 PM

Brown Thrasher So, what is your point? For... 03-09-2005, 09:32 PM

404Error Oh well then, if you've... 03-10-2005, 11:57 PM

Brown Thrasher Error, I dont' claim to be an... 03-11-2005, 12:41 AM

404Error This is what I said in... 03-11-2005, 12:58 AM

Brown Thrasher Once again, I apologize. You... 03-11-2005, 02:45 PM

wolf 404 is the one who spent 20... 03-16-2005, 09:01 AM

Trilby *SIGH*---Brown Thrasher---I... 03-07-2005, 08:48 AM

Brown Thrasher I sincerely apologize.... :) 03-07-2005, 09:56 AM

russotto Calling drug addiction a... 03-07-2005, 10:08 AM

Brown Thrasher Russ, I am not talking about... 03-07-2005, 06:05 PM

Undertoad But here's the kicker: most... 03-07-2005, 11:01 AM

mrnoodle "I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a... 03-07-2005, 01:53 PM

Brown Thrasher That is what I like honesty.... 03-07-2005, 06:28 PM

Trilby AA, NA---all the same shit. ... 03-09-2005, 01:27 PM

capnhowdy I need a drink...........make... 03-09-2005, 08:23 PM

Trilby You know, the whole... 03-13-2005, 05:01 PM

xoxoxoBruce Because after 90 odd years of... 03-13-2005, 08:22 PM

Trilby I'll drink to that* *soda!... 03-14-2005, 07:04 AM

mrnoodle I wish there was an entity as... 03-14-2005, 10:10 AM

Trilby Wow--23. Such a waste! They... 03-14-2005, 11:04 AM

Troubleshooter Here in my town, in La, they... 03-14-2005, 11:42 AM

Brett\'s Honey Meth is a HUGE problem here... 03-14-2005, 10:07 PM

mrnoodle ephedrin ain't allowed in... 03-14-2005, 01:28 PM

Trilby It's about brain chemistry... 03-14-2005, 10:46 PM

Brett\'s Honey Once they move past denying... 03-14-2005, 11:09 PM

xoxoxoBruce It's always a choice but as... 03-15-2005, 07:40 AM

Brown Thrasher A person who is chronically... 03-15-2005, 07:21 PM

Brown Thrasher No, it is more like whwn a... 03-15-2005, 06:58 PM

Happy Monkey When the decision-making part... 03-15-2005, 08:06 AM

404Error Then it's mind over... 03-15-2005, 09:44 AM

404Error The difference being, in the... 03-16-2005, 01:36 PM

03-14-2005, 08:01 PM

#11

Troubleshooter

The urban Jane Goodall

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Florida

Posts: 3,012

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Is is a social issue or is it a biological issue?

It's both, and more.

Some people are predisposed to a physical chemical dependency, should they ever imbibe alcohol or other chemicals.

Some people are predisposed to a psychological chemical dependency, should they ever imbibe alcohol or other chemicals.

Some people, after imbibing said chemicals decide to forgo continued imbibing.

Some people, after imbibing said chemicals decide to continue imbibing.

People continue because they lack the willpower to stop.

Some people lack the willpower because the physical addiction is overwhelming.

Some people lack the willpower because the psychological addiction is overwhelming.

There is help for both.

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