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Old 05-24-2005, 11:28 PM   #1
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It's no different at all. Both actions are harmless.
To you a Koran down the toilet or women's menstrual blood on a face is harmless. Tell that to the many people who died in Afghanistan riots because of harmless actions. Firing all those policemen and soldiers in Iraq was also harmless. Clearly violating the teachings of Sze Tzu (500 BC) are just harmless actions.

So how do you explain the nine dead American soldiers and Marine today because Bremmer did something harmless? The Iraqi insurgency, made possible by and then created by American actions, was just something harmless by Bremmer? Clearly it was just as harmless to 'burn the village to save it'. Clearly those lines not to be crossed, as taught by history, are only arbitrary. We can move them at any time because we are righteous Christian Americans?

It is harmless to change our standards of conduct when convenient. Tell that to today's nine dead American soldiers and Marine. Tell it to so many dead Afghanistan civilians. Tell it to the many Americans who will die due to 'no respect' for another people and their culture.

Harmless. What the White House also called it when they changed standards to authorized torture. At what point do we stop moving this line that separates us from Saddam or Hitler?
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:40 AM   #2
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It shows once again that they will be the enemy regardless. There will always be something about the US to rally the forces of Islam around because they need that.
The communists and every tin horned dictator have always needed an enemy to focus the attention of their minions away from their own problems and toward the group good, fighting fill in blank.
Christians seem to settle for "evil" or "the devil" when there's no enemy more apparent.
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Old 05-25-2005, 11:34 AM   #3
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It shows once again that they will be the enemy regardless. There will always be something about the US to rally the forces of Islam around because they need that.
The communists and every tin horned dictator have always needed an enemy to focus the attention of their minions away from their own problems and toward the group good, fighting fill in blank.
Christians seem to settle for "evil" or "the devil" when there's no enemy more apparent.
It shows once again that we will be the enemy regardless. There will always be something about the rest of the world to rally the forces of fearmongering war profiteers around because they need that.
The Neocon pseudo-patriots and every cuckholded administration have always needed an enemy to focus the attention of their minions away from their own problems and toward the group good, fighting fill in blank.
Every religion in the world
seem[s] to settle for "evil" or "the devil" when there's no enemy more apparent.

xoB, thank you for letting me use your thoughts as a starting point for my post. With these few edits, I haven't changed the truth of the post at all. Especially the first sentence. It takes two, brotha, it takes two.

Your broad generalizations can be supported by actual incidents. As can my equally broad generalizations. And like all broad generalizations, the broader they are the less precisely they apply. The behavior of the mobs in Afghanistan is criminal. Just that. Well, maybe you can throw in a fig leaf of religious indignation. But if the same behavior was demonstrated by Christians, would you say the same of them? I doubt it.

Islam didn't riot, people did. To tar all of Islam like this based on the actions of a small number of people relative to the the population of believers is misinformed or lazy or deluded and I have never seen evidence of any of those traits in your writing. So must naturally conclude that you've made a mistake, which I wish to correct:

Islam is not the enemy of the US.

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