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Originally Posted by Undertoad

The OT sure does suck, but then, I thought BACs put more importance into the NT. The NT sure does deny a lot of the fire and brimstone crap with a newfound attitude of tolerance and kindness.

A Softer Gentler Book righttttttttttttttttttttt

Child Beating.

"He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him takes care to chastise him" (Proverbs 13:24 NAB)

"Chastise your son, for in this there is hope, but do not desire his death. The man of violent temper pays the penalty; even if you rescue him, you will have to do it again." (Proverbs 19:18-19)

Baby Bashing.

"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." Psalms 137:9

Become a Eunuch for God.

For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12)

God Makes Wicked People.

The Lord has made everything for his own ends, even the wicked for the evil day. (Proverbs 16:4 )

A Ravenous Appetite is Bad.

And put a knife to your throat if you have a ravenous appetite. (Proverbs 23:2)

The Mouth of an Adulteress.

The mouth of an adulteress is a deep pit; he with whom the Lord is angry will fall into it. (Proverbs 22:14)

The Prince of Peace?

(Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36)

Slaves Must Respect Their Masters.

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)

Women Are Subordinate to Men.

Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

Shut Up Women!

As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35)

Hate Your Family.

(Jesus Speaking) If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)

The Fiery Furnace.

The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth. (Matthew 13:41-42)

There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.


In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.[/b]

So there, dov, you getting all the answers in life you wanted out of The Cellar? All your spiritual questions answered and all that jazz? Did you come here to have your "yes or no" question answered or simply to permit your flailing rants to be broadcast to the world?

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Did you come here to have your "yes or no" question answered

I knew the answer before I asked it. It was confirmed.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

I knew the answer before I asked it. It was confirmed.

Right. I'm sure your generous contribution to the greater world of debate has been noted, somewhere.

This thread seems to be more about a spiritual masturbation session on your part than anything else. Any indication otherwise is rendered null, since your side of the discussion is easily replaced by another source of static text.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by dov

There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.

In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.

That's surely true, but the overall NT message -- not contradicted by your examples -- does not contain the savagery and war of the OT. People were pretty much instructed to be cool, as opposed to the OT where they were often instructed to decimate entire enemy populations with the assistance of God.

You sought to make your own point, not to contradict mine, and so you failed to contradict mine and it stands -- y'see? If you want to disprove my point, you have to address it, you see?

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That's surely true, but the overall NT message -- not contradicted by your examples -- does not contain the savagery and war of the OT. People were pretty much instructed to be cool, as opposed to the OT where they were often instructed to decimate entire enemy populations with the assistance of God.

That makes my brimstone bigger than your brimstone. nanananana.

[keryx]

Originally posted by dov:There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.


In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.[/quote]


Similar tidbits can be found in the OT. By your own reasoning that also makes the OT books also full of shit, right?

I'm just following the logical bouncing ball.

And in case it wasn't deduced from my previous post, I do emphatically deny there is a plan to herd and destroy the Jewish people. End of statement.

Many fools have tried to predict the future from interpreting the Bible. The future cannot be known.