Quick ? about A: drive (3.5 floppy)

[bigw00dy]

I am getting this window when I try to open up a disk that contains images. The disk is from 2004 or so if that matters.

Thanks in advance
jeff

[dar512]

Are you trying to read or write?

My experience with 3.5 floppies is not good. I've had them go bad in two years or less. Some I couldn't even reformat.

First try blowing some canned air into the drive. The 3.5 drives are more susceptible to dust than the old 5.25 drives were.

Try formatting, filling then reading a new disk. If that works, I suspect your old disk has gone bad.

[bigw00dy]

I am actually trying to retrieve the images off the disk. But I will try some canned air, good idea!! Thanks

[wolf]

You have been given a very sensible recommendation: Test your hardware before you blame the media.

[WabUfvot5]

Are you sure it's a Windows disc? Perhaps try it on a Macintosh since they can read more filesystems.

[tw]

Originally Posted by bigw00dy

I am getting this window when I try to open up a disk that contains images. The disk is from 2004 or so if that matters.

First, write protect the diskette. Until you have eliminated other reasons for the problem, don't let anything write to this diskette.

Second, blowing air on the disk or inside the drive is useless. One problem that does occur is a magnetic deposit on disk heads. This can be cleaned with 90% alcohol and a Q-tip. But that means opening the drive. Instead move on to other options.

Third, diskette could have been written by a drive that was out of alignment. Therefore only that unique disk drive would be necessary to read diskette. Or diskette could be failing. Magnetic material does degrade with time - faster on some inferior diskettes. Repeated reads until the sector is read could be attempted using many different drives until one finally reads a signal strong enough to decode data. A disk that is properly aligned could be just off enough to read badly misaligned diskette data or, well try reading using different drives until one diskette / floppy drive combination finally works.

Fourth, of course currently used drive could be out of alignment, or has a weak data reading head. Again, try other drives.

Fifth, what the problem is. Formatting is a process where each data sector is magnetically defined. Each sector has a header that is written once by formatting, and then remains read only in normal use. Floppy drive reads this header, then either reads or writes data after this header. The header is how drive synchronizes to each sector's data AND confirms it is reading correct data. If that header cannot be read by floppy disk controller, then controller complains about address mark; does not know if data is good or junk. No address mark is a communication problem between what should be read only information on diskette and the floppy disk controller. Computer is simply reporting what it was reported by floppy disk controller.

Sixth, any attempt to rewrite that address mark will (obviously) destroy data which is also why that diskette must be write protected.

Seventh, it is possible to read all other data. But that requires special programs that ignore the bad address mark in that header. For example, that one sector could simply leave one and only one file defective.

Of course you know what computer wrote this diskette. This is not a file incompatibility problem. This is a problem unique between that diskette and that controller inside the floppy disk controller. Operating systems and file formats would be irrelevant to the problem. But some OSes have better tools to partially recover data. No reason to continue since information from above tests is enough for a first experiment.

[laebedahs]

Originally Posted by Jebediah

Are you sure it's a Windows disc? Perhaps try it on a Macintosh since they can read more filesystems.

It would give a different error. In Windows XP, which he's using, if he were using a disk format Windows doesn't support, it would state the disk isn't formatted (and would ask him to format it. Ha!)

[capnhowdy]

Damn, TW.....

I'm glad to hear you finally speaking in layman's terms.

[zippyt]

I have about given up on diskettes , i use a jump( thumb, memory stick , binkeys ) drive now .
no where near a fragile as a floppy , hell Foot washed one and it still worked !!

In the past I have had to do what I call a drive-ectomy , take that nasty mother apart and SCRUB everything , reassimble and pray it works !
If I have to use a floppy and I know in advance i generly bring a drive from home that I KNOW works .

[WabUfvot5]

Originally Posted by laebedahs

It would give a different error. In Windows XP, which he's using, if he were using a disk format Windows doesn't support, it would state the disk isn't formatted (and would ask him to format it. Ha!)

Ahh, that's right. Been a long time since I used floppies or windows.