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Old 07-02-2006, 02:19 PM   #1
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She is almost always right. The preferred Cellar method of starting a discussion about it would be a short quote, an explanation of your thoughts, and a link to the article. Usually folks won't read a long article by someone the disagree with unless somebody uses it to back-up their own ideas. Welcome to the Cellar.
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Old 07-02-2006, 04:45 PM   #2
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I was just testing the water so to speak.. posting an article like this or even starting a topic as such has brought nothing but accusations of being an UN-grateful, murderous, UN-patriotic American traitor in the past. Thanks for the tip and the welcome Griff.
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Old 07-02-2006, 04:47 PM   #3
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I usually refer to her as Madam President, sounds more patriotic that way.
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:50 PM   #4
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I was just testing the water so to speak.. posting an article like this or even starting a topic as such has brought nothing but accusations of being an UN-grateful, murderous, UN-patriotic American traitor in the past. Thanks for the tip and the welcome Griff.

As for testing the waters. I don't like the Gump analogy but that is nothing personal against you.

I have been waiting for a good discussion on just about anything. If you could raise the bar and find some articles with sharp opinions then add your response to it, I am sure these really smart people here love a good discussion with you.


oh and by the way. I am not one of the smart people. Just a lazy wannabe intellectual who likes to hang about.
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:59 PM   #5
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Forrest Gump struck me as a disconnected boy scout that ricocheted through history like a pinball. Maybe I didn't understand the movie?
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Old 07-02-2006, 10:29 PM   #6
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Forrest Gump struck me as a disconnected boy scout that ricocheted through history like a pinball. Maybe I didn't understand the movie?
no you understood it...she didn't



I had to look up the movie again because it has been so long. The analogy the movie took was, 'Life is Like A Box of Chocolates. You never know what your going to get' Anyone that knows the movie would think this person Karen would support her opinions by drawing a reference to that?

I'm not able to tell miss Karen 'life is not like a box of chocolates' because she didn't even bother to use that line.

She did say quote "instead of being entertained by Gumpian common sense and wide-eyed amazement, as we are with The Daily Show, every good American ought to aspire to achieve a certain level of personal Gumpism."



I can't tell if she is comparing us to gump or telling us to be more gump or oddly the three little pigs too.

It's confusing.

I think it's a bit insulting to the average american who would at least gave a chuckle to a Homer analogy.


I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my homosexuals flaming. ( homer )


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Movies are the only escape from the drudgery of work and family ... No offense. ( homer )
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:58 PM   #7
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She did say quote "instead of being entertained by Gumpian common sense and wide-eyed amazement, as we are with The Daily Show, every good American ought to aspire to achieve a certain level of personal Gumpism."
I, too, was waiting for details on what that sentence meant. For example, I have no idea what 'wide-eyed amazement of the Daily Show' means. Where and what is the amazement? And how passive TV viewing have any relationship to what we aspire or what we would achieve?

Sentences like that also made me hate poetry. Apparently there is some meaning there. But it requires me to speculate which no honest person should do. I don't like posts that require me to speculate, assume, or identify implications - which is why short posts are also so difficult to read. What exactly does that sentence mean and what is 'personal Gumpism'.
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:00 AM   #8
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This was probably the most disconnected thing I've read by Lieutenant Colonel Kwiatkowski. She is much better writing about military matters. The piece probably makes more sense with all the embeded links, but I'm not gonna wade through it.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:26 PM   #9
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Sentences like that also made me hate poetry. Apparently there is some meaning there. But it requires me to speculate which no honest person should do. I don't like posts that require me to speculate, assume, or identify implications - which is why short posts are also so difficult to read. What exactly does that sentence mean and what is 'personal Gumpism'.
I like poetry. I don't mind speculating but there has to be something for the mind to grab hold of. A consistent theme. Something that makes sense.

Like a peom about wet moss,red leaves and rough bark. You could guess it is about a tree. Maybe it's raining but for sure it's probably Autumn. Even if you are not a visual person it still discribes something.

This Forest Gump thing dosn't make sense. We are trying to relate what she is saying to a movie character.
ok he's dosn't have a normal IQ, He is basically good if slow and life for him is a series of one hit wonders.

I think Bruce said it well by saying he was 'pinballing here and there without rhyme or reason'.( pharaphrase)

If she could have stated one characteristic she saw and made a reference to the movie then maybe we the readers could make more sense of it?
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