For portion control, look to the container - Page 4

Ibby · 08-14-2006, 11:58 PM

Look, people, seriously, rkzenrage is RIGHT. If you eat it, it's YOUR responsibility. The company you buy it from has NO responsibility at ALL to make sure that you eat healthily.

Stormieweather · 08-15-2006, 08:49 AM

Oh I agree.

But I also think it is a marketing ploy to use wacky product sizes with convoluted portion descriptions. If I am on a diet and want one serving of ABC but they only sell 1.795 serving sized packets, the temptation to eat/drink the entire thing is there. And in some cases, the extra product is not saveable after you eat your 1 serving portion. So you feel guilty for wasting it and eat/drink it anyway. (My mama taught me to eat everything on my plate, a very hard habit to break).

It's as much a marketing ploy as putting snacks by the checkout and impulse items on the end of the isle. Sneaky!

I have learned to stop eating before I'm full, to eat only when I'm really hungry (as opposed to bored), and to carefully consider the portion sizes I intake. I just avoid fast food altogether, they have nothing good for me there

Yes, what and how much I eat is my choice, but the manner in which many products are marketed don't always make it easy.

Stormie

Sundae · 08-15-2006, 12:51 PM

[Deleted part as it was explained better by Glatt]

Do I believe companies are deliberately adding calories to make people fatter? No, I'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist. There is no logical reason for that unless they are run by aliens sent to create easy pickings for their hungry planet.

But I do think that they are acting irresponsibly in not considering the amount of calories and fat in their products, and making it simpler and easier for people to buy large amounts of food/ drink they would not choose if everything were sold separately? Yes I do.

The same criticism has been levelled at pubs & bars in this country that offer special deals on alcohol, especially during limited hours (buy 2 get one free for the next hour, all shots double for the next hour etc) then turf the whole sodden drunken mess out on the streets for the Police to deal with. It's not that alcohol should be banned. It's not that city centre pubs shouldn't be allowed to compete with eachother. It's just that if you give a drunk person a chance to drink more and drink quickly using a special promotion they will take it.

If you offer a fat person a chance of a ready made burger with bacon AND cheese AND another burger in there too and then package it all up with extra large fries and an extra large drink they will take you up on the offer. That's why they're fat in the first place - they haven't learned to modify their eating habits.

No I don't want these places forced to reduce sizes, or the pubs forced to sell smaller measures of beer or spirits. I would just like to see some responsibility in the way it's approached. Let people build their own meals, their own burgers. Offer mix & match so the extra large fries don't automatically come with the biggest burger. Offer 1 soft drink with every 2 alcoholic ones in a bar.

For the record, I'm not trying to palm off responsibility for people being fat onto those who make and sell high fat products. I certainly make my own choices and accept the responsibility fully, and believe other people should too. And other people includes the people behind the promotions. I just like the idea of corporations sitting and shrugging and saying, "Well, no-one's holding a gun to their head!" Kerching!

LabRat · 08-15-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Let people build their own meals, their own burgers. Offer mix & match so the extra large fries don't automatically come with the biggest burger.

Around here everything on a 'value meal' menu (combo meal etc.) is also available separately. If you purchased each separately it would just cost you more. Just because you are craving a big mac, you don't have to get fries and a soda. In fact, when my daughter and I go to McD's I usually get the 2 cheesburger/fries/drink (iced tea) regular sized and a chocolate milk OR the chix nuggets/fries/drink (iced tea) regular sized and chocolate milk and split either with my daughter. For the record, the first time I ever gave her nuggets, I peeled off the batter part, since it has 0 nutrients and most of the fat. Now, she won't eat them unless I do this

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Ibby · 08-16-2006, 10:30 PM

YES, it IS a marketing ploy, and YES, they CAN make more money on it, but THAT IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. You can't blame them if you fall for it and voluntarily eat their food they sold to you fairly.

08-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Selling what the majority of the people want is not a ploy... it is just smart.
I agree, it is not their fault if people eat too much... like saying it is the fault of a bakery for selling whole cakes... makes NO sense.

08-14-2006, 11:58 PM	#1
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Look, people, seriously, rkzenrage is RIGHT. If you eat it, it's YOUR responsibility. The company you buy it from has NO responsibility at ALL to make sure that you eat healthily. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

08-15-2006, 08:49 AM	#2
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	Oh I agree. But I also think it is a marketing ploy to use wacky product sizes with convoluted portion descriptions. If I am on a diet and want one serving of ABC but they only sell 1.795 serving sized packets, the temptation to eat/drink the entire thing is there. And in some cases, the extra product is not saveable after you eat your 1 serving portion. So you feel guilty for wasting it and eat/drink it anyway. (My mama taught me to eat everything on my plate, a very hard habit to break). It's as much a marketing ploy as putting snacks by the checkout and impulse items on the end of the isle. Sneaky! I have learned to stop eating before I'm full, to eat only when I'm really hungry (as opposed to bored), and to carefully consider the portion sizes I intake. I just avoid fast food altogether, they have nothing good for me there Yes, what and how much I eat is my choice, but the manner in which many products are marketed don't always make it easy. Stormie __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

08-15-2006, 12:51 PM	#3
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	[Deleted part as it was explained better by Glatt] Do I believe companies are deliberately adding calories to make people fatter? No, I'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist. There is no logical reason for that unless they are run by aliens sent to create easy pickings for their hungry planet. But I do think that they are acting irresponsibly in not considering the amount of calories and fat in their products, and making it simpler and easier for people to buy large amounts of food/ drink they would not choose if everything were sold separately? Yes I do. The same criticism has been levelled at pubs & bars in this country that offer special deals on alcohol, especially during limited hours (buy 2 get one free for the next hour, all shots double for the next hour etc) then turf the whole sodden drunken mess out on the streets for the Police to deal with. It's not that alcohol should be banned. It's not that city centre pubs shouldn't be allowed to compete with eachother. It's just that if you give a drunk person a chance to drink more and drink quickly using a special promotion they will take it. If you offer a fat person a chance of a ready made burger with bacon AND cheese AND another burger in there too and then package it all up with extra large fries and an extra large drink they will take you up on the offer. That's why they're fat in the first place - they haven't learned to modify their eating habits. No I don't want these places forced to reduce sizes, or the pubs forced to sell smaller measures of beer or spirits. I would just like to see some responsibility in the way it's approached. Let people build their own meals, their own burgers. Offer mix & match so the extra large fries don't automatically come with the biggest burger. Offer 1 soft drink with every 2 alcoholic ones in a bar. For the record, I'm not trying to palm off responsibility for people being fat onto those who make and sell high fat products. I certainly make my own choices and accept the responsibility fully, and believe other people should too. And other people includes the people behind the promotions. I just like the idea of corporations sitting and shrugging and saying, "Well, no-one's holding a gun to their head!" Kerching! __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

08-16-2006, 10:30 PM	#5
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	YES, it IS a marketing ploy, and YES, they CAN make more money on it, but THAT IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. You can't blame them if you fall for it and voluntarily eat their food they sold to you fairly. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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08-17-2006, 10:29 PM	#6
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Selling what the majority of the people want is not a ploy... it is just smart. I agree, it is not their fault if people eat too much... like saying it is the fault of a bakery for selling whole cakes... makes NO sense.

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