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Originally Posted by Hippikos

The war in Europe had already reached turning points before the American armies got involved. The Russians at Stalingrad and British at El Alamein for instance. Again the US was a major factor, but not a decisive one.

Maybe your library, but in the real world, with real history, that's bullshit.

El Alamein was pivotal in opening the Suez supply route, right? What supplies? From Whom. Rubber? Oil? TEA? I suppose the Aussies would have stopped the Japs from putting a stop to that, huh? And those U-boats wouldn't have dared interrupt the tea supply?

Stalingrad stopped the Nazi march to the east, what, a thousand miles from Germany? With a little help from some minor player sending materials, by the way. I suppose you think the Russians could have pushed the Nazis all the way back to Berlin, had not the German High Command decided they better push the western front, because some minor player had entered the war, following Pearl Harbor? Yeah, right after England bombed the German industrial machine to ashes, without those B-17s, B-25s and B-29s.

The Russians and British Commonwealth, along with some smaller countries and even a handful of french, put up tremendous resistance. Often winning battles while at a great disadvantage. But even with our supplies, it would have dragged on like WW I, without either side capable of landing the knockout blow. At some time there might of even been a peace established by treaty, but the Nazis would not have been defeated...only stalemated.

That's discounting the Japs getting involved with Russia, India and the middle east, after swallowing Asia and Australia.

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